Zebra Sound Design -tips, and tricks

[3ee]

Cool Sendy

I really need to explore more with the phase reset switch on.
Basically, that's how I see new digital timbres getting born.
wave+phasereset+phase ... not to mention oscfx or anything else


That reminds me, yesterday, I was exploring new ways to get superwaves. Getting some interesting results with comb filters + delays.

+I suspect that the JP8000 supersaw is made up from a clever comb filter combination or derivative... because, when I was trying to get as much as possible into my JP8000 Zebra patch, I've accidentally stumbled upon the OSC feedback mode.
Not really remembering now, but I've done that with the comb filter and osc sync where the comb filter pitch is going up, the sync is going down.. so I suspect that the original supersaw was done using 3 or 6 comb filters modulated by 3 or 6 free running key tracked LFOs or something ...

anyway... try getting some superwaves in that way with Zebra in single or dual osc mode using only the comb filters (in parallel) and delays... LFOing ...the comb pitch and the small delay ratio.
If you set them right, you won't get cancellations, the effect is very interesting!

[pdxindy]

One technique I like to use is having one osc act as the attack for a comb module and then a second low volume osc with a slow delayed envelop to create some inharmonic resonance (or string buzz). The second osc is also fed into the comb or to a second comb. Using a second comb lets you better control how the sound develops separately from the attack (uses more cpu).

Here is a Tubular bells sound which uses this technique. Also modulated Tone and Flavour to give some nice movement to the inharmonic resonance. I made this sound to demonstrate that Zebra stands right there with modeled instruments like Chromaphone.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Zebular1.mp3

[Howard]

(Edit: never mind)
(Edit again, after the comment immediately below: No, I had posted a Diva tip because I misread the thread title)

[3ee]

(Edit: never mind)

EDIT: ...never mind either, I guess you where trying to say something about the comb filter's prefill control?!

[JD Gaffe]

Whoever resurrected this thread, thank you. I did not know it existed.

[3ee]

One technique I like to use is having one osc act as the attack for a comb module and then a second low volume osc with a slow delayed envelop to create some inharmonic resonance (or string buzz). The second osc is also fed into the comb or to a second comb. Using a second comb lets you better control how the sound develops separately from the attack (uses more cpu).

Paying more attention now once rereading some of your 1st posts within this thread...
..what I've just quoted just makes perfect sense now.

Getting some very nice plucked sounds from the comb filter now, so thank you very much!
Didn't like the Comb filter a couple of months ago, but now.. I think it will be one of my favorite modules!

[pdxindy]

One technique I like to use is having one osc act as the attack for a comb module and then a second low volume osc with a slow delayed envelop to create some inharmonic resonance (or string buzz). The second osc is also fed into the comb or to a second comb. Using a second comb lets you better control how the sound develops separately from the attack (uses more cpu).

Paying more attention now once rereading some of your 1st posts within this thread...
..what I've just quoted just makes perfect sense now.

Getting some very nice plucked sounds from the comb filter now, so thank you very much!
Didn't like the Comb filter a couple of months ago, but now.. I think it will be one of my favorite modules!

If you like physical modeling of sounds, the comb modules are your friend!!

Couple more examples using the same technique...

http://draigathar.org/sounds/pluck5.wav

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Stringzz2.wav

[BRoySound]

(Edit again, after the comment immediately below: No, I had posted a Diva tip because I misread the thread title)

Howard, Please Do Share Diva Tips n Tricks...........or better we can make a second thread for that.........

[3ee]

Howard, Please Do Share Diva Tips n Tricks...........or better we can make a second thread for that.........

2nd thread coming right up!
There you go: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=335557

[aaron aardvark]

mcnoone,
You've had a lot of impressive free Zebra patches lately. They played a crucial role in a song I completed recently. It'll be quite awhile before I go public with it; it won't happen until I get a copyright on a batch of tunes of mine. Anyway, thank you very much!!

[mcnoone]

mcnoone,
You've had a lot of impressive free Zebra patches lately. They played a crucial role in a song I completed recently. It'll be quite awhile before I go public with it; it won't happen until I get a copyright on a batch of tunes of mine. Anyway, thank you very much!!

Great...happy to hear that, and hope I'll get to hear your music soon.

[3ee]

Zebra superwave with phase reset trick!

How many times did you wanted to get the wave phases spread out while in eleventh mode and with phase reset on ...with no detuning? .. for a metallic digitized sound.

Try this:

-Default patch, osc1 simple saw
-set to eleventh mode, phase reset on
-mod matrix select osc1-detune, and modulate it (max amount) with a micro short MSEG or env (added: no sustain)
- finetune parameters: decay and v-slope curve for the env (or attack knob for the MSEG) to finetune the timbre/character.

-back to the OSC1, fine-tune phase/pw so it's not to boomy or thin (yeah apparently under eleventh mode you get PWM-ish results if modulating phase/pw although the OSC invert is OFF.

Added: ow yeah, almost forgot... turn on osc sync and play with sync tune also .. for a cool oxidized sync sound!
OK, now turn it off again.. cause it's got some artifacts and for regaining the PWM options

[kmonkey]

One technique I like to use is having one osc act as the attack for a comb module and then a second low volume osc with a slow delayed envelop to create some inharmonic resonance (or string buzz). The second osc is also fed into the comb or to a second comb. Using a second comb lets you better control how the sound develops separately from the attack (uses more cpu).

Here is a Tubular bells sound which uses this technique. Also modulated Tone and Flavour to give some nice movement to the inharmonic resonance. I made this sound to demonstrate that Zebra stands right there with modeled instruments like Chromaphone.

http://draigathar.org/sounds/Zebular1.mp3

Stunning sound

[j0hnny]

Thank you to all for sharing your techniques. There are some useful tips and beautiful sounds posted up here.

I have created some tuning files which slightly alter the standard 12tET scale. It puts a nice slant on things and can make Zebra sound like an old out of tune Analog synth.

Is there an easy way to share/post the files on here?

[mcnoone]

Is there an easy way to share/post the files on here?

Yes. here.
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