KVR Audio

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:18 am

Teksonik wrote:Hmmm no demo and my OS is not officially supported. I guess I could just roll the dice and see if it works on my Win Xp machine. Price is excellent and the audio demos are nice. Not too crazy about the eLicenser but at least it doesn't require a Dongle.....

Cubase 6.5 runs fine in Windows XP (including Retrologue), therefore, I see no reason for Retrologue not to.

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:30 am

Retrologue looks like a bog standard subtractive synth.....whats is it actually offerring at that ptice that i dont already have ?

Q8 · Post by Q8 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:33 am

[quote="Kriminal"]Retrologue looks like a bog standard subtractive synth.....whats is it actually offerring at that ptice that i dont already have ?[/quote]

Danny j Lewis created a nice little video comparing the Moog Minitaur with Retrologue and the virtual analog did a quite good job:

http://cubaseworld.com/2012/07/06/moog- ... retrologue

auricle · Post by **auricle** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:44 am

Is there any difference between the Retrologue that is bundled with Cubase 6.5 and the version sold separately?

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:16 am

Kriminal wrote:Retrologue looks like a bog standard subtractive synth.....whats is it actually offerring at that ptice that i dont already have ?

It's a cut down version of the HALion 4 VA engine. Retrologue just provides all the basics with fixed ADSR's. If you want something more than that then you're looking at the wrong product - Instead look at HALion 4.

I wouldn't recommed HALion Sonic because, although it provides the VA engine too, it confines the GUI to a very small area, and the full blown HALion VA engine really requires space. HALion 4 doesn't just give you space - it gives you a fairly flexible tabbed GUI which you can customize. I'd be surprised if the next Cubase GUI wasn't, at least partly, based on it.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:29 am

If I have Skanner, do I need Padshop???

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:10 pm

ben_horwood wrote:
erickUO wrote:Ah finally, a vst version of retrologue
Finally a VST2 version of Padshop too.

I might have to seriously reconsider this now, since being VST3 only was the thing that was holding me back from purchasing it.

But only for Windows, on Mac there is just VST3 or AU

Kriminal · Post by **Kriminal** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:14 pm

PAK wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Retrologue looks like a bog standard subtractive synth.....whats is it actually offerring at that ptice that i dont already have ?
It's a cut down version of the HALion 4 VA engine. Retrologue just provides all the basics with fixed ADSR's. If you want something more than that then you're looking at the wrong product - Instead look at HALion 4.

im not looking for anything really, i just wondered if i was missing anything...i have dune,diva, zebra, albino, blah blah blah.....

Q8 · Post by Q8 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:33 pm

Padshop and Retrologue 1.1 updates available

Steinberg today released new updates for the Retrologue and Padshop VST instruments. The free 1.1 updates add AU and VST 2.4 compatibility to Padshop and Retrologue and works for the VSTi versions included in Cubase 6.5 and Cubase Artist 6.5 as well as for the Padshop full retail version.

Downloads available here
http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/downloads.html

JimmiG · Post by **JimmiG** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:25 pm

filter303 wrote:Padshop is a really interesting product and the price is very good. Only thing I am not sure about is the copy protection. Is the elicenser some sort of C/R thing if you choose not to use the usb dongle?
What happens to the license if my computer gets broken and I want to install it on a new computer?
I don't fully understand how it works. Can anyone tell me?

I'm also wondering about this. Without a dongle, can I reformat, install on a new computer etc. without limitations?

ZINO · Post by **ZINO** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:36 pm

Good (added) Value! Now you can get your steinberg key with your cubase licence inside and use 2 great VSTs with whatever DAW you like. Nice!

JimmiG wrote:
filter303 wrote:Padshop is a really interesting product and the price is very good. Only thing I am not sure about is the copy protection. Is the elicenser some sort of C/R thing if you choose not to use the usb dongle?
What happens to the license if my computer gets broken and I want to install it on a new computer?
I don't fully understand how it works. Can anyone tell me?
I'm also wondering about this. Without a dongle, can I reformat, install on a new computer etc. without limitations?

You just go the MySteinberg site, where you can request your new licence. Register first if you haven't already....

https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/kn ... l-faq.html

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:44 pm

Kriminal wrote:im not looking for anything really, i just wondered if i was missing anything...i have dune,diva, zebra, albino, blah blah blah.....

Are you missing anything from Zebra when you get Diva? Not really, in terms of features. So it comes down to the sound and whether you like what you hear. That, as I'm sure you're aware, is subjective and a question which can only be sensibly answered by yourself. My opinion? It's a nice VA. On the clean side without getting the mod matrix/distortion involved, and I don't think you'd be missing a huge amount without Retrologue given what you have.

In terms of HALion 4 then you'd be missing a bunch. The "full" VA engine Retrologue is based on is a 3 osc + sub, ring and noise, 8 filter models and (iirc) 24 different filter shapes, where 4 can be ran together at once. Then there's fully flexible envelopes (draw your own curves), including the ability to control modulation matrix curves, step mod, flex-phrase arp, a bunch of FX (of more value if you don't use Cubase, since they're based on those). Then there's the ability to add who knows how many layers in a single program, the ability to load 128 different programs at once which use those layers, control over how those are spanned across the keyboard, multi-core awareness (the only other VST I know that has this atm is Diva). I didn't get to the samples yet.. Suffice to say, different product, way more features, and something to look at if people quite like the Retrologue sound but want a lot more than a standard VA offers..

filter303 · Post by **filter303** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:46 pm

Thank you for answering my question Zino.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:06 pm

Anyone tried the AU version? Works well?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:45 pm

Neon Breath wrote:Anyone tried the AU version? Works well?

Yes apart from the preset browser being in a stupid place. Would be better if they provided the presets as aupresets.

Steinberg releases Retrologue and Padshop Pro for VST & AU