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machinesworking wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:02 pm
noiseboyuk wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:45 pm Hmm not really. Omnisphere is almost a bottomless very high quality and very broad synth. Speakerphone does just one thing very well.
I don't see the issue with the comparison. Omnisphere does synth and rompler sampler sounds very well, covers the gamut. Speakerphone does all kinds of degraded speaker emulations along with the artifacts, from the sound of audio from a room over, in an airport, through a toy speaker, etc. etc.

It's expensive, I got it years ago on one of the rare sales they have and I use it all the time. Depends on your music, but mine incorporates these elements often. It would be IMO absolutely indispensable if you were doing film work. Does a tarnce producer need it? probably not.
It’s got a distortion module, compressor, vinyl simulator, EQ, Leslie simulator, modulation effects, delay, telecom emulation, delay, LFOs to modulate things, a ROMpler, as well as the convolution engines. Saying it does one thing is ridiculous.
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zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:30 am It’s got a distortion module, compressor, vinyl simulator, EQ, Leslie simulator, modulation effects, delay, telecom emulation, delay, LFOs to modulate things, a ROMpler, as well as the convolution engines. Saying it does one thing is ridiculous.

It's impressive even today. I have most of the alternatives mentioned and I'm still upgrading.

One lame thing though is it kills your license for Speakerphone 2 to upgrade, so if you have VST2 or in my case MAS versions that might not translate to VST3 and AU probably best to make sure all your settings in songs are saved as patches.

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zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:26 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:45 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:55 pmSpeakerphone is sort of like the Omnisphere of convolution and effects. Could you get what it does out of other plugins? Of course. If you add it all up, would it be cheaper than if you’d just bought Speakerphone? Probably not. Where are you going to get an IR of an answering machine from 1992, or the trunk of a Volvo? :hihi: Most probably don’t need or want stuff like that, so that’s why it’s expensive. You’re not going to sell a billion licenses of this, so the price ends up being high.
Hmm not really. Omnisphere is almost a bottomless very high quality and very broad synth. Speakerphone does just one thing very well.
I respectfully say that you have your head in your anus and have maybe never used Speakerphone.
I respectfully say I've been using Speakerphone 2 (and Omnisphere) for over a decade.

I get what you were going for - both are premium products that attract the same criticism - "but you can do that with other tools much more cheaply". The point is that Omni covers a vast range of uses so is useful to the professional to get many different tasks done quickly. Speakerphone 2 is useful to the professional seeking to do just one specific job quickly. 'sall I meant.

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noiseboyuk wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:38 am
zerocrossing wrote: Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:26 am
noiseboyuk wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:45 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 1:55 pmSpeakerphone is sort of like the Omnisphere of convolution and effects. Could you get what it does out of other plugins? Of course. If you add it all up, would it be cheaper than if you’d just bought Speakerphone? Probably not. Where are you going to get an IR of an answering machine from 1992, or the trunk of a Volvo? :hihi: Most probably don’t need or want stuff like that, so that’s why it’s expensive. You’re not going to sell a billion licenses of this, so the price ends up being high.
Hmm not really. Omnisphere is almost a bottomless very high quality and very broad synth. Speakerphone does just one thing very well.
I respectfully say that you have your head in your anus and have maybe never used Speakerphone.
I respectfully say I've been using Speakerphone 2 (and Omnisphere) for over a decade.

I get what you were going for - both are premium products that attract the same criticism - "but you can do that with other tools much more cheaply". The point is that Omni covers a vast range of uses so is useful to the professional to get many different tasks done quickly. Speakerphone 2 is useful to the professional seeking to do just one specific job quickly. 'sall I meant.

You have a good day now.
Sorry. I read, “just does one thing very well” differently. I could definitely get a lot of what Speakerphone does from other plugins, but I’d miss the workflow convenience of having an all in one tool, because it does a whole bunch of things very well.
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Has anyone purchased the upgrade from a third-party retailer? Does it replace your SP2 license?

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It's nice. I use it all the time for dirtying up all types of sounds. It's a bit expensive as it's geared more for post production but it's extremely useful for musical applications as well. If you can get it on sale or used id recommend it.
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StayFlyEatFries wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:15 pm Has anyone purchased the upgrade from a third-party retailer? Does it replace your SP2 license?
Audio Ease are nice folks. Ask them if the v3 license will make v2 work as well. This is the case for most things. They can probably just let you keep your v2 license if you ask nicely.
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Ah_Dziz wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:39 pm
StayFlyEatFries wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:15 pm Has anyone purchased the upgrade from a third-party retailer? Does it replace your SP2 license?
Audio Ease are nice folks. Ask them if the v3 license will make v2 work as well. This is the case for most things. They can probably just let you keep your v2 license if you ask nicely.
I don’t think Aram will do that, because SP 1-3 are based on 1 authorization per license only.

If you could keep both SP 2 and SP 3 licenses, that ment break that limitation. Its Pace-based authorization, btw.

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Harry_HH wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:17 pm
Ah_Dziz wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:39 pm
StayFlyEatFries wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:15 pm Has anyone purchased the upgrade from a third-party retailer? Does it replace your SP2 license?
Audio Ease are nice folks. Ask them if the v3 license will make v2 work as well. This is the case for most things. They can probably just let you keep your v2 license if you ask nicely.
I don’t think Aram will do that, because SP 1-3 are based on 1 authorization per license only.

If you could keep both SP 2 and SP 3 licenses, that ment break that limitation. Its Pace-based authorization, btw.
Ideally the V3 license would just work on V2. I've not updated so I don't know if it does or not. I seem to vaguely recall that my altiverb 7 license would let me run altiverb 6 while they were still working on the PC version. I could be wrong though. But that way there's still only one license for one user it can just authorize 2 different bits of software on the same system.
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Ah_Dziz wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:26 pm Ideally the V3 license would just work on V2. I've not updated so I don't know if it does or not. I seem to vaguely recall that my altiverb 7 license would let me run altiverb 6 while they were still working on the PC version. I could be wrong though. But that way there's still only one license for one user it can just authorize 2 different bits of software on the same system.
Unfortunately IMO Audio Ease are ridiculously tight about the single license thing, Altiverb 8 replaces 7 and you needed to update your current projects. I have not upgraded to Speakerphone 3, but this is likely the same scenario with it.

Easily my least favorite part of the company, I love Speakerphone, but it's single license limitation is annoying as hell.

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Im guessing they want to keep their rules tight so they can make sure all the mixing stages pay up. I haven't even looked at v3 or the latest altiverb as the versions I have now are perfectly adequate. I especially don't want to have to manually replace any old versions in old projects so that's a decent incentive for me to save my money for now.

Does anybody know offhand if the included library of sounds are licensed for non musical use? Like in video games etc? I'd assume so but I never looked through the license agreement.
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Ah_Dziz wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:26 pm
Harry_HH wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 3:17 pm
Ah_Dziz wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:39 pm
StayFlyEatFries wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:15 pm Has anyone purchased the upgrade from a third-party retailer? Does it replace your SP2 license?
Audio Ease are nice folks. Ask them if the v3 license will make v2 work as well. This is the case for most things. They can probably just let you keep your v2 license if you ask nicely.
I don’t think Aram will do that, because SP 1-3 are based on 1 authorization per license only.

If you could keep both SP 2 and SP 3 licenses, that ment break that limitation. Its Pace-based authorization, btw.
Ideally the V3 license would just work on V2. I've not updated so I don't know if it does or not. I seem to vaguely recall that my altiverb 7 license would let me run altiverb 6 while they were still working on the PC version. I could be wrong though. But that way there's still only one license for one user it can just authorize 2 different bits of software on the same system.
They say on their website

"Speakerphone 3 is not available for Windows yet. Windows support will be added later. When you purchase Speakerphone 3 now, you will be able to use Speakerphone 2 on Windows."

Surely this is guesswork as well, but if you don't have to choose between an iLok license for Windows and an iLok license for MacOS, buying a v3 license will most likely be authorizing v2 as well as v3. It is possible that you have to surrender a v2 license when you upgrade to v3 but as I understand this it will still let you run v2 - at least on Windows. Why not just ask them ?

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This same thing happened with altiverb. I had a version working while I waited for the full update (I think this was when they released 64 bit support).
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ElevatedBeing wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:34 am Can't Plogue's ChipCrusher do most of what Speakerphone can, for a fraction of the price?
https://www.plogue.com/products/chipcrusher.html
Or audiothing speakers?

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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Sun Oct 06, 2024 4:57 pm
ElevatedBeing wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:34 am Can't Plogue's ChipCrusher do most of what Speakerphone can, for a fraction of the price?
https://www.plogue.com/products/chipcrusher.html
Or audiothing speakers?
Most is the key word here. You could assemble Speakerphone in a DAW out of multiple plugins, a speaker and reverb convolution, some folly sounds, a bitcrusher, multiple EQ's, radio and phono plugins etc. etc. etc. There are roughly 15 fx in Speakerphone and modulation routing etc.

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