KVR Audio

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:00 pm

lachrimae wrote:Unison is off so I don't think it's related to that.

I created a sine only WT in serum and imported it into Codex and still get about 6 harmonics up through 20Khz. Perhaps it's a conversion issue related to the morphing tables...

Edit: I get the same harmonics using Codex's built in Sine WT. Must be user error...

Do you have a filter with resonance running?

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:19 pm

zerocrossing wrote: For $50? Sold. Worth that for it's patches. For $100... maybe. $200? Not a chance.

Bam. +1

They should have waited another few weeks post-Serum to drop this....

UltimateOutsider · Post by **UltimateOutsider** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:22 pm

zerocrossing wrote:Unison is meek, but to me, I don't care about that for this type of synth.

That's really interesting. Unison was also (to me) the weakest aspect of Waves Element, which I think is otherwise quite a good little subtractive synth.

EDIT: And yeah, if I manage to make it to that webcast tomorrow, $50 is easily in impulse-buy territory.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:24 pm

somebody is going to have some more arpreggiated goodness!!!!!!

Still, the arps and stuff are not "tight" with live. Not sure if that is me or I just don't know the plug yet.

himalaya · Post by **himalaya** » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:48 pm

From Waves website:

Advanced and comprehensive Modulation Matrix

I have to question this.

6 mod slots and an archaic source-mod amount-destination design is all that Codex has to offer. Synth modulation design should be moving away from such a simplistic approach by now. Z3ta+ got it right all those years ago - although it uses the mod matrix approach only.

This is where Serum scores highly in my view: drag+drop+edit modulation, plus a much more evolved mod matrix view.

Novalis · Post by **Novalis** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:31 am

One more difference is, that Codex is also available as a standalone app, not only as a plug-in.

I use the standalone of Element a lot, so for me this is a big plus - for others it may be irrelevant.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:48 am

Well for me Codex for $50 > Serum for $129

Also I like the presets a lot more for Codex and I mainly use/tweak presets.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:09 am

What is this 50 buck off thing you guys keep talking about?

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:14 am

hibidy wrote:What is this 50 buck off thing you guys keep talking about?

here you go bud http://www.eventbrite.com/e/everything- ... 3022948991

blackflag · Post by **blackflag** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:43 am

The filters just don't sound very good to me in either synth, I guess I will be sticking with Zebra and Dune2.

Hadrondrift · Post by **Hadrondrift** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:48 am

Novalis wrote:Codex is also available as a standalone app, not only as a plug-in.
I use the standalone of Element a lot, so for me this is a big plus - for others it may be irrelevant.

Do you know SAVIHost? A cool and free application. It's a very very small VST-Host that creates a pseudo-standalone version of every VST plugin.
Just download, rename SAVIHost.exe to <plugin>.exe, here "Serum.exe", drop that exe file into your plugin folder and finally doubleklick Serum.exe...

Lee702 · Post by **Lee702** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:03 am

Hadrondrift wrote:
Novalis wrote:Codex is also available as a standalone app, not only as a plug-in.
I use the standalone of Element a lot, so for me this is a big plus - for others it may be irrelevant.
Do you know SAVIHost? A cool and free application. It's a very very small VST-Host, that creates a pseudo-standalone version of every VST plugin.
Just download, rename SAVIHost.exe to <plugin>.exe, here "Serum.exe", drop that exe file into your plugin folder and finally doubleklick Serum.exe...

Also Minihost Modular.

http://www.image-line.com/documents/new ... 1391136116

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:54 am

ATS wrote:
hibidy wrote:What is this 50 buck off thing you guys keep talking about?
here you go bud http://www.eventbrite.com/e/everything- ... 3022948991

Oh wow, that's cool! (I hope I can remember

)

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:25 am

Here are some audio demos. I'm not sure if they are as experimental as i would like but it gives an idea of the tones you can get with Codex.

http://www.waves.com/plugins/codex#audio

The GUI looks pretty neat though, but I honestly like Serums better.

vasilis_et.ma · Post by **vasilis_et.ma** » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:06 am

Serum kills Codex in terms of sound quality..

Codex vs Serum