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moonmadness · Post by **moonmadness** » Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:44 pm

jmg8 wrote:
vectorwarrior wrote:Help for any control can be shown by either pressing F1 (if your DAW doesn't steal that key) or by pressing the ? button on the toolbar for the window it's in.
Also CTRL+ H

i know.
i did not explain myself very well.

i meant just a bubble that appears when you mouse over a button that tell you what that button is.
i'd like to see if that button i'm about to push is the Copy or Paste button, for example.
there's so may buttons it's hard to tell what is what exactly.

satYatunes · Post by **satYatunes** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:12 pm

murnau wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:
mladi wrote:I'm very happy with satyatunes approach.

That is downright hideous.
What exactly is so hideous? I like it too it's much better then my own attempts.

You will never get any constructive criticism from such feedback. That's when I stopped caring. Plus, it's more of a personal preference thing, some like light background and some dark. It's very subjective and hard to find a balance to please everyone. Secondly, I have observed, some users are highly biased towards specific type of UIs (e.g. Fabfilter) and they want every plugin they own to look the same. How boring it would be if all look the same.

Hats off to Vojtech who saw it coming from the beginning and gave the user the Style Editor.

satYatunes · Post by **satYatunes** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:16 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:Hehe classic - neverending conversation where user A says that style 1 is great and style 2 is hiddeous and should be removed, and user B says the exact opposite .
Folks, find a style you like, then go make some music! That's an order!

Haha.. good one.. you missed one though.. fixed it for ya

Folks, find a style you like or create your own, then go make some music! That's an order!

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:29 pm

satYatunes wrote:
murnau wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:
mladi wrote:I'm very happy with satyatunes approach.

That is downright hideous.
What exactly is so hideous? I like it too it's much better then my own attempts.
You will never get any constructive criticism from such feedback. That's when I stopped caring. Plus, it's more of a personal preference thing, some like light background and some dark. It's very subjective and hard to find a balance to please everyone. Secondly, I have observed, some users are highly biased towards specific type of UIs (e.g. Fabfilter) and they want every plugin they own to look the same. How boring it would be if all look the same.

Hats off to Vojtech who saw it coming from the beginning and gave the user the Style Editor.

Thats all right satYa. I didn't expected a rational answer anyway, maybe a hideous answer if any.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:47 pm

murnau wrote:
satYatunes wrote:
murnau wrote:
masterhiggins wrote:
mladi wrote:I'm very happy with satyatunes approach.

That is downright hideous.
What exactly is so hideous? I like it too it's much better then my own attempts.
You will never get any constructive criticism from such feedback. That's when I stopped caring. Plus, it's more of a personal preference thing, some like light background and some dark. It's very subjective and hard to find a balance to please everyone. Secondly, I have observed, some users are highly biased towards specific type of UIs (e.g. Fabfilter) and they want every plugin they own to look the same. How boring it would be if all look the same.

Hats off to Vojtech who saw it coming from the beginning and gave the user the Style Editor.
Thats all right satYa. I didn't expected a rational answer anyway, maybe a hideous answer if any.

I do love Fabfilter's GUIs but I don't think everyone's should be the same. I'm actually not referring to the color scheme. I mean the entire layout. Lots of poorly-allocated space. Display boxes that are 1000 pixels wide for 4 character values, resulting in parameters and parameter values that are far apart, increasing eye fatigue, and such a rectangular interface it would give SpongeBob an erection. Interface design is really an art and this just lacks imagination. Sorry.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:01 pm

masterhiggins wrote:I'm actually not referring to the color scheme. I mean the entire layout. Lots of poorly-allocated space. Display boxes that are 1000 pixels wide for 4 character values, resulting in parameters and parameter values that are far apart, increasing eye fatigue, and such a rectangular interface it would give SpongeBob an erection. Interface design is really an art and this just lacks imagination. Sorry.

Sorry what? You don't understand that the display boxes have to be that wide because they reflect the values graphically? Which is very helpful btw.

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:11 pm

Not just on the ones that are displayed graphically. Even on the knob values they're still wide as hell with tiny textual feedback. I'm not opposed to graphical feedback. It's just grossly disproportional to the GUI size/resolution. It's at the very least awkward.

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:20 pm

masterhiggins wrote:I'm actually not referring to the color scheme. I mean the entire layout. Lots of poorly-allocated space. Display boxes that are 1000 pixels wide for 4 character values, resulting in parameters and parameter values that are far apart, increasing eye fatigue, and such a rectangular interface it would give SpongeBob an erection. Interface design is really an art and this just lacks imagination.

+1 I totally agree with that!

Let's forget about all the popups, colors or control choices. They're horrible too but also too subjective.
The interface tries to be as customizable/resizeable as possible. But with that it messes up its whole layout, design and usability. Your example whith the display boxes is a good one. Try resizing the window on the x-axis and it gets even worse. On the other side it is flooded with information.

I bought 2 plugins earlier this year but decided to sell them. Haven't been using them like I expected, just because they are such different to handle in workflow.

Grunwaldt · Post by **Grunwaldt** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:44 pm

I'm new to MeldaProductions plugins, first I thought the UI was ugly, but after choosing the first style tab, the one most on the left side (don't recall its name) with the fourth color set (mainly light blue) and knob controls, I'm quite satisfied with the resulting interface. Also not mentioned (maybe I missed it) in this thread is the unique feature from melda to scale down/up the controls and text, I use a low resolution because i'm visually impaired and that's quite essential for me.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:08 am

I just wish that their fonts were better. Simply using standard OS fonts (e.g., allowing use of the stock fonts on the Mac) would be a dramatic improvement. I use plenty of cross-platform plug-ins, and they certainly use standard Mac fonts when running on the Mac.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:06 am

danatkorg wrote:I just wish that their fonts were better. Simply using standard OS fonts (e.g., allowing use of the stock fonts on the Mac) would be a dramatic improvement. I use plenty of cross-platform plug-ins, and they certainly use standard Mac fonts when running on the Mac.

Fonts are problematic really. They really do make up for a lot of the "beauty" in the style, but they are as always very "personal". We mostly use the Roboto, which I think is very good and easy to read - that's actually the main property. When I was experimenting with it, it often seems that if something looks "cool" it was actually sort of fatiguing to the eyes. But again, everyone has a different pair of eyes

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danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:59 pm

I'm sorry to disagree, but objectively the main font is really quite bad. It has very poor letterspacing, for instance, which interferes with readability. It would be highly preferable to allow access to the high-quality professional typography available in OS X (now "macOS"). Without that, you are operating at a significant disadvantage.

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:01 pm

And just to be clear, I am not talking about having "cooler" fonts. Instead, I would much appreciate better, more readable fonts. I personally find the current fonts "fatiguing," as you write, and I'm pretty sure that a good portion of the complaints about your UI are influenced by this simple issue.

vectorwarrior · Post by **vectorwarrior** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:36 pm

I'm not really a 'font' person, but I prefer switching off 'UPPERCASE' in the style editor, so only the first letter becomes capitalized. I find that considerably easier to read and in some plugins it reduces the size of the window too.

capitals.jpg

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:39 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:We mostly use the Roboto, which I think is very good and easy to read - that's actually the main property

Thought I recognised it - I use the condensed variant for body text on my site - http://www.ilovecubus.co.uk/v3/category ... here-v2-0/

BTW I noticed a [very] slight bug on satya's fantastic SkyBlue Theme with MXXX - If you choose a preset that you don't own a specific machine for it'll (correctly) show the error dialog saying what plugin is missing and the colour scheme of MXXX will go slightly darker to show that the window is not in focus. However when you close that dialogue the colour scheme will remain in that darker state even though the window is in focus - You have to click on any part of the GUI and then the colour scheme will correctly light up again. As I say a tiny tiny bug - not sure if it's the theme or the MXXX plugin that's the issue ...

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