Any one else hate this?

[Rellik]

LoRez, that sounds really cool. If I had so much money I didn't know what to do with it all, I would pick up Project 5 just for the features you're talking about. But people struggle with the host they use because that's the host they have, and to change hosts is expensive and difficult, and must by ncessity be reserved for changes in economic or professional status.

Falcone, I agree! The problem hasn't been ignored... that's what the whole thread's been about. It's very frustrating, and I agree that it's bs. My workaround does make things a lot easier, though; just not as easy as it should be.

Wireless, I don't know if FL can take transport controls from anything but the PCR- series, but if it can, you should be able to find the CC numbers that the transport controls are assigned to (download the FL Studio PCR- control map, and then open the paramlist.)

[DHR53]

Another great thread... And one that makes you go... Hmmmm? I've always wondered about that mod wheel thing, I figured it was because Fruity was originally designed to be used with it's own instruments, (a long time ago)... And Orion has always been the easisest to link all controls, but it doesn't save that info either, as far as I know? Where's the perfect app when you need it?

Live 4.0???

[TeeLangSun]

The fact still stands that you can't save, for example, a Dashboard that translates every control on your MIDI controller to use with any of your VSTi's. You can save the preset, but you'd have to relink it every time you want to use it. And that's not fun =( especially if you have one of those MIDI controllers with huge amounts of knobs.

If I could save the Linking settings, then it would be fine. But since you cant save the Link settings, ...

Does anyone here realize how easy it is to do all this stuff in Project 5? I know some people still hate it for some reason, but it is truly the coolest when it comes to all this (and yes I have been a FL owner in the past).

Track Patches! 1)You load a Dxi or VSTi 2)You can Midi Learn any parameter of the synth from any controller just by right clicking (even if the synth itself does not have this capability) 3)You can load any bank or sound 4)add any dx or vst effects and map knobs to those as well 5) save it and name it!

It then shows up in your instrument list under patches and when you select it...it comes back up exactly the way you left it. Not to mention you can save a whole setup of track patches as a template. This way you forget about "which synth" and "which bank did I have loaded" and "which preset was that" and "what effects did I like on that"...and instead you simply load "BadAss 3am filter bass" and VIOLA!

On top of that you can plug 16 hardware MIDI controllers into it and multiple people can jam on their own synths and control patch changes, have their own discreet knob settings, etc etc. This has made for some seriously fun late night mayhem with friends.

I don't get why people struggle through this stuff with most apps when there is one that totally kicks ass in this department.

Maybe because that's one of the very few things that anyone has ever said nice about Project 5. That does indeed sound nice, but I personally could never tolerate it's interface.

[Falcone]

i think there must be special "driver" in FL for this controller, like for Tascam/Edirol. Or???

[Sascha Franck]

Now before Mirabebe's head explodes with shrapnel of flp files and simsynth presets, I DO think FL has a lot of potential and maybe, just maybe, will compete with the bigguns (Logic, Cubase, Protools). But they have a long way to go still.

I'm not a FL user but more or less some Logic addict. And even though I have to say, that, compared to what I've been reading in this thread (regarding Fruity's MIDI-to-parameter routings), Logic's MIDI implementation when it comes to FX tweaking and/or mixing is piss-poor, nothing less.

Almost each and every virtual synth these days offers MIDI learn/assign modes, none of the Emagic ones do.
Almost each and every host allows to control FX parameters using some controller mapping, almost impossible in Logic unless you fumble yourself to death with some lousy enironment workarounds.
Did you ever try using a fader/knob box as as synth programming device in Logic? Forget about it, unlike you are an environment guru - and even then things are far away from being acceptable for a sequencer at that price.

Anyways, enough of that rant - if Logic had at least some MIDI routing options such as FL, I'd be a happier guy for sure.
Won't happen with Logic/Win, most likely will again take some while for Logic Pro as all those fancy new things seem to be more important than a slick and easy MIDI implementation.

[R'yleh]

in Orion the CC to Param settings are saved with the song and with the presets AFAIK

so make a template and your done.

[LoRez]

LoRez, that sounds really cool. If I had so much money I didn't know what to do with it all, I would pick up Project 5 just for the features you're talking about. But people struggle with the host they use because that's the host they have, and to change hosts is expensive and difficult, and must by ncessity be reserved for changes in economic or professional status.

I completely agree and understand where you are coming from.

[pough]

If by "this" you mean people not putting the actual subject in the subject line, then yes.

[lights]

Will check out the Project 5 demo. Thanks for the suggestion.

And so it's obvious that I am not the only one here who would like to see fruity handel automation diffrently. That kind of suggests that maybe by Flstudio 7.0 things will be diffrent.

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