KVR Audio

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:30 pm

himalaya wrote:
AnX wrote:
sl1914 wrote:Fxpansion Strobe2 has a good example of well made preset browser:
...and the worst example of modulation, absolute nightmare to work with.
I love it. The best there is!

The Fxpansion 'TransMod' mod system and the one used in Alchemy are the best I have used.

Ah yes, Alchemy, another one collecting virtual dust...

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:33 pm

Dasheesh wrote:Working with samples is like close to zero CPU load so if possible it's a good idea.

This is where you magical SSD might come in

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:02 pm

Just found this on the Synapse forum: http://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewtopi ... 69#p115162

Richard wrote:It is not possible to have 2 resonant filters in a row (i.e. both with Q) [in Dune 2], however this is planned for DUNE 3.

Dunno if it was officially confirmed here yet, so, yeah, that is that.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:19 pm

Why does it have to be confirmed here? If he said it on his own website forum, thats about as official as you can get....no?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:47 pm

Well, it doesn't. Hence i pasted the link here, so people know that it is officially confirmed that 2 serial filters are coming in Dune 3. I haven't read that here yet, so i thought it would be a good idea.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:52 am

Good to know that the dual filters are confirmed.

Richard also noted in the Dune2 thread that D3 will be fully preset compatible with D2. There will be new analogue modelled modes for all or most of the effects but they will be in addition to the current ones, not replacing them, as far as I understood.

I think when more people post their FRs here we could make a consolidated list containing the FRs mentioned by at least two people and then someone (me?) posts it over the synpase forum.

izonin · Post by **izonin** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:07 am

Synapse did a very good job emulating the MiniMoog. What I'd like to see in Dune 3 is a close emulation of the Virus filters.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:47 am

izonin wrote:Synapse did a very good job emulating the MiniMoog. What I'd like to see in Dune 3 is a close emulation of the Virus filters.

Rich sold his virus years ago, after he used it for the original Dune.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:17 am

AnX wrote:
izonin wrote:Synapse did a very good job emulating the MiniMoog. What I'd like to see in Dune 3 is a close emulation of the Virus filters.
Rich sold his virus years ago, after he used it for the original Dune.

Really curious what he modelled from the Virus, if anything. Dune sounds nothing like it.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:29 pm

Do you own a virus?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:49 pm

No. And now that we talked about that, and you pulled your straw card, we can happily wait for someone wo actually owns a Virus to confirm the obvious. That Dune sounds NOTHING like the Virus. I can only guess that some of Dune's architectural parts were somewhat modelled on the Virus. If any of the sound was actually modelled on it, then, sorry, epic failure. It seems to share some waveforms with it though. And it has filters and envelopes too.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:42 am

chk071 wrote:No. And now that we talked about that, and you pulled your straw card, we can happily wait for someone wo actually owns a Virus to confirm the obvious.

You know my opinion

In short, Dune sounds as similar to Virus as any other synth having oscillators, filters and unison.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:54 am

As a Virus Ti owner I would say where Dune has similarities is in the voice and unison architecture and the fact that it can create huge patches with lots of voices. However the rest of it is not similar. On the other hand Spire probably comes closest in terms of some of its filters (and its reverb) but can't do the voicing thing and eats CPU.

So if Dune 3 could put both elements together it may get closer, although I'm less interested in an emulation (since I already have the real thing) than what it can do in its own right. For me it's the wavetable functionality that needs the most work and the filters have room for improvement. The ladder from Legend would be great of course.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:21 am

aMUSEd wrote:As a Virus Ti owner I would say where Dune has similarities is in the voice and unison architecture and the fact that it can create huge patches with lots of voices. However the rest of it is not similar. On the other hand Spire probably comes closest in terms of some of its filters (and its reverb) but can't do the voicing thing and eats CPU.

Yes, same feelings here (I have the Virus too).

I wish Spire had a global unison similar to Virus and also I want to have its shaper section between the filters. Then it would be close enough to Virus for most of my tasks.

I don't think Dune needs to develop in the direction of Virus emulation, rather it could become a sort of software equivalent to Andromeda - a polyphonic/unison synth with more analogue-like character, great for evolving pads and sequences, in case Richard uses his knowledge in the anlaogue-emulating area.

Also curious to see what will be in there in the WT area

sacer · Post by **sacer** » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:38 am

drag and drop writes modmatrix
mseg like cableguys curve
dune1 and dune2 preset import
morph the 8 between layers (one mode are 8 layers like dune2 has and the other mode could be like alchemy or kore2 to morph between 8 variations from a preset)

The Dune3 feature requests thread