Rent-to-own?

[braj]

If U-he does decide to do this, I'll be getting Diva again ASAP.

[braj]

It's absolutely beyond me, how some can't afford a 170 € plugin once in a while. Even me, as a hobbyist, with very small budget to spend on these things, i'm able to afford the one or the other plugin, mostly during sales. If your 2 fellow producers weren't able to purchase Sylenth1 in the last winter sale, for 99 €, then i have no idea what they can afford...

Yeah, I'm disabled, with about $60 a month discretionary spending budget for toys, my wife makes the real money, and I don't like to spend her hard earned cash if I can avoid it. I get a bit of leeway during the holidays, so I bought Repro this year among a couple other things from my savings. And I have other expensive hobbies I've been trying to save for a new video card all last year, but buying new synths wiped out all my savings. My son going to college is more important. But synthesizers make me happy even when I don't really need them.

I have a subscription for Allegorithmic that is $19 a month for access to all their tools, Roland's Cloud is tempting to me, but I am not really interested in their plugins. I would be U-he's, and would happily pay $20 a month to rent to own one. I could save my money and buy one used and save something, but I do like to give my cash to the developer and feel like I am supporting the product. I know used is a valid market, but I also know developers like U-he that don't charge fees still spend something supporting license transfers. I dunno. Rent to own is something I can afford, maybe it isn't a good fit for U-he, and I understand it doesn't fit all user's needs either.

[melomood]

I do miss the good old days when my list of priorities didn't also already include a list of things I want when I do have 170 to toss at something just for me

[dlarseninclusive]

I did the Serum rent to own, Sure why not. It turns out I have a pattern, and load up on new plugins toward years end. Same thing happened last year although I will say this year was much worse. Aururia, NI, Air Music and SynthMaster all at significant discounts, plus non-stop Propellerheads sales.

I guess you could put Uhbik on the Propellerheads subscription deal to get a feel for it, however the other Dev's I have talked to about it make it sound like you are almost giving it away for free and it's not such a good deal. I would love to have the Uhbik rack extensions (Even at $50 more) but don't really want to buy it twice.

I blame Junkie XL for my new found U-He collection, he gave a very short but memorable plug on his favorite plugins video. Since Sept: Hive, FilterScape, Zebra, Dark Zebra, and Repro almost back to back. Ace, Bazille, Uhbik, Diva and Presswerk... well as soon as I can. I don't usually want to collect a whole product line however in the case of U-He I certainly do. (NFR's gladly accepted of course...lol)

My mild bummer today was, I spent a few hours setting up a performance project with my new Aurturia Beatstep, two synths and a drum set one synth challenge style with all Repro-5. Then found out 6 Repro-5 units with effects work, but trying to screen cap both that and the controller... well... Faaiilll... fai... fail.. faill.... failed. I guess I can render it down, not the same thing but gotta do what you gotta do.

[braj]

the other Dev's I have talked to about it make it sound like you are almost giving it away for free and it's not such a good deal.

That's no fun at all.

[dlarseninclusive]

That's no fun at all.

Word!

My thoughts on the subscription is its a long term demo, the U-he video featuring Marco Resmann really resonated. Paraphrasing: "Buy hardware, buy plugins so you take it seriously" Which I can say I often won't even open the manual until I buy something and then after I do. Manual, setup, project, projects... make it work and find its limits.

[fourthmanfire]

How about a nice K-mart lay-away program.You don't get the actual product until it's paid off

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but I don't get why this would be advantageous whatsoever. If you don't get the "actual product" until you pay in full, isn't this "lay-away" program you're requesting the same as just saving your money the old-fashioned way?

To be honest, I think people just want things cheaper and thus, it's intellectually stimulating for them to talk about different ways to accomplish this.

U-he synths..ESPECIALLY those at the introductory discount, are great values....and when considering the hard work and man hours involved in each of these machines, I think it's completely fair.

Just kinda bugs me that u-he has to even respond to these when in my mind their products are already fairly priced..

[braj]

In the 80's when I spent nearly every extra penny I had on hardware, I used lay-aways at music stores to buy stuff. It kept me from spending the money on anything else, because once I put it down, I just had to live with that. Now thirty years later I'm still on a tight budget, and it is still advantageous for me to put that money away before I get something else in my life that causes me to spend it. It is like vested interest, it makes paying it off a necessity, a priority, and it gets done where savings for something can always be rationalized onto some new necessity. I may be a special case, I'm not saying U-he should have a lay-away program or rent to own, and I hope U-he just does whatever necessary to keep the lights on and everyone working towards the next release, but one awesome developer once let me pay for an awesome software synthesizer on lay-away, and I really appreciated it.

[ghettosynth]

How about a nice K-mart lay-away program.You don't get the actual product until it's paid off

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but I don't get why this would be advantageous whatsoever. If you don't get the "actual product" until you pay in full, isn't this "lay-away" program you're requesting the same as just saving your money the old-fashioned way?

LOL! Yep, especially since the product is virtual. With K-Mart lay-away you could put clearance and sale items on layaway so there was a tangible benefit over just saving money.

To be honest, I think people just want things cheaper and thus, it's intellectually stimulating for them to talk about different ways to accomplish this.

For some definition of "intellectually."

[bmrzycki]

In the 80's when I spent nearly every extra penny I had on hardware, I used lay-aways at music stores to buy stuff. It kept me from spending the money on anything else, because once I put it down, I just had to live with that.

There's nothing stopping you from doing this right now. Get a jar, label it "Repro-5 layaway". Put money in it when you can and use the demo version until then. If you're unable to do this it's not the fault of the developers but rather a self-discipline issue.

I'd much rather have u-he working on innovative new sound design ideas rather than re-working their payment system for rent-to-own.

[braj]

In the 80's when I spent nearly every extra penny I had on hardware, I used lay-aways at music stores to buy stuff. It kept me from spending the money on anything else, because once I put it down, I just had to live with that.

There's nothing stopping you from doing this right now. Get a jar, label it "Repro-5 layaway". Put money in it when you can and use the demo version until then. If you're unable to do this it's not the fault of the developers but rather a self-discipline issue.

I'd much rather have u-he working on innovative new sound design ideas rather than re-working their payment system for rent-to-own.

Luckily I own a Repro license already And I am with you, I don't want U-he wasting cycles if it doesn't give them more profitability. The question is though if in the future it does make sense for them, I'm just saying that it would make sense for me as a customer that doesn't mean I have no self control, lol. But I'll get a virtual jar out and label it Diva anyway, thanks for the advice.

[fourthmanfire]

In the 80's when I spent nearly every extra penny I had on hardware, I used lay-aways at music stores to buy stuff. It kept me from spending the money on anything else, because once I put it down, I just had to live with that.

There's nothing stopping you from doing this right now. Get a jar, label it "Repro-5 layaway". Put money in it when you can and use the demo version until then. If you're unable to do this it's not the fault of the developers but rather a self-discipline issue.

I'd much rather have u-he working on innovative new sound design ideas rather than re-working their payment system for rent-to-own.

My thoughts in a more concise fashion

[pdxindy]

In the 80's when I spent nearly every extra penny I had on hardware, I used lay-aways at music stores to buy stuff. It kept me from spending the money on anything else, because once I put it down, I just had to live with that.

There's nothing stopping you from doing this right now. Get a jar, label it "Repro-5 layaway". Put money in it when you can and use the demo version until then. If you're unable to do this it's not the fault of the developers but rather a self-discipline issue.

I'd much rather have u-he working on innovative new sound design ideas rather than re-working their payment system for rent-to-own.

+1

[monkiusz]

+1 for Diva in this model on OSX.

[vonnegut66]

If U-He used Splice, I'd get his VI's.
That simple.
I should add not because I'm poor/a cheapskate, it's just
a way to balance my finances a bit more
effectively.
If he doesn't do it, It'll just be awhile until
I can buy them all outright.