Melda dynamic EQ vs Pro Q 3

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mccy wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:27 am
AGIGA wrote: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:18 am
Hi mccy, the MOVEQ+ looks really interesting. What are the "pre follower inserts" for?
I made some plugins for inserting... The "movamily" so that the envelope following could be transformed to other curves or compressor/expander-like curves.

Before the followers filters make sense, but it alters the curve too, when you use a compressor or even a delay... or any other effect before a follower. That was a massive eslxperimental lab :-).

Scope is such a beautiful platform with all its modularity. You could just make your own inserts with sub-effects.

Moveq is a beast. In these young days I was obsessed with bringing every kind of movement to music. Every device had some moving parts ;-)

The only thing I wanted to change was that I used the stock eq modules which were great, but slower in movement. Some time later I built moving eqs in Synthmaker/Flowstone with eq- math from the cookbook where you can modulate the eqs very fast. I didn't finish that for scope just because my daughter was born and I hadn't the time on my desktop computer. (scope is a sytem on pci cards with sharc dsps.later ther was Xite, a box outside the computer which was too expensive for me then :-( )
This concept sounds great.
Have you ever thought about starting to code again and bringing the Moveq back to life (64bit)?

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Alan Valdez wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:48 am I own the ProQ3 and the MCompleteBundle, almost all the time I end using MAutoDynamicEq, about the 10 or 20 bands... really? (Probably that file needs to be fixed with RX8) xD I don't use more than 5 bands and if I need to do that there is one EQ with more bands for that... MFreeformEqualizer or MFreeformAnalogEq.
:love: That was the exact reason! Personally I think that if you need more than 7 bands, then you must be doing something wrong :) . At very specific times this gets handy - like the resonance removal, which is another cool feature in MAutoDynamicEq.

Anyways when it comes to cloning, monopolism and stuff, I personally don't worry. Audio industry is evolving pretty fast exactly because there are many small developers, which are quick to clone ideas from other companies and add something "extra" to that. And since every user likes something different, at the end everyone is happy ;)
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AGIGA wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:03 pm
This concept sounds great.
Have you ever thought about starting to code again and bringing the Moveq back to life (64bit)?
I did exactly that this year with flowstone 64 bit alpha for "Scratchknott", the worlds best (:-) - for special purpose) vst Scratchtool. I never knew that the first version "Scratchmas" had become so popular. Now it's 64 bit.

A MOVEQ+ rebirth would be great fun, but I strongly recomment just using Melda Dynamic EQ, for me it is perfect. MOVEQ+ does look nice, but has no advantage over melda... For the soniccore scope cards it is still a mighty tool.

Hm. I asked this myself all the time: Building a Dynamic EQ within MXXX would that be possible to make a device that people could use in the MXXX for free? I think not, there is just the Msoundfactory player, not a mxxx player. Soundfactory has no audio in. Would make no sense using MXXX to create effects similar to the available ones. That can't be an option.

Yesterday I started rebuilding my old scope device "fluliq" which got very nice comments all the time. It is a mighty modulation monster and I could realize nearly all features within MXXX.
Just curious, which would be the options... Would it be even possible to make a VST out of that? With MXXX it's only usable for those who use MXXX core? I think I just used basic modules... I bet some developers do so allready, using MXXX as playground for building new effects?

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Mrs_Midi wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:18 pm
Alan Valdez wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:48 am I own the ProQ3 and the MCompleteBundle, almost all the time I end using MAutoDynamicEq, about the 10 or 20 bands... really? (Probably that file needs to be fixed with RX8) xD I don't use more than 5 bands and if I need to do that there is one EQ with more bands for that... MFreeformEqualizer or MFreeformAnalogEq.
Have you found any good in-depth tutorials for the FreeForm EQ? It looks interesting, pulling down the Analog version now
check this, it's interesting! https://www.meldaproduction.com/guides/ ... nter=Html :) have used the free form analog on a lot of mixes, sounds great! some people use the free form to creat IR
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Gregorius wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:28 pm
Alan Valdez wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:48 am about the 10 or 20 bands... really? (Probably that file needs to be fixed with RX8) xD I don't use more than 5 bands and if I need to do that there is one EQ with more bands for that...
Reading the topic it was about "MAutoDynamicEq can definitely do anything and much more" and the cloning of features, which is then obviously not true. I btw experienced it completely different than you. Whenever I try to use any other EQ, I eventually end up inserting ProQ3 (with the exception of coloring eqs). And with the few Meldaplugins installed in general - open them, trying to use them but felt so out of context I switch them. That's life 8)
I also use eq for coloring, and compressors, already own a lot of bundles from Waves, Izotope, Melda Producion and most of the best vst on the market, and all concludes to: I use Cubase, and some people like reaper I don't like reaper and for me it looks like a toy and doesn't have what I need, also Know that some good records are mixed with reaper and have seen mixes from records that I love that are mixed with reaper's internal plugs, that I don't like certain tool doesn't make that to be a bad tool.

we use what it looks, feels better for what we need, we must know how to use the fx that we own. Also... Melda Production stuff is beyond a normal fx compared side to side, and really changes the user mind if the user knows how to use their software the right way.
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MeldaProduction wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:26 pm
Alan Valdez wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:48 am I own the ProQ3 and the MCompleteBundle, almost all the time I end using MAutoDynamicEq, about the 10 or 20 bands... really? (Probably that file needs to be fixed with RX8) xD I don't use more than 5 bands and if I need to do that there is one EQ with more bands for that... MFreeformEqualizer or MFreeformAnalogEq.
:love: That was the exact reason! Personally I think that if you need more than 7 bands, then you must be doing something wrong :) . At very specific times this gets handy - like the resonance removal, which is another cool feature in MAutoDynamicEq.

Anyways when it comes to cloning, monopolism and stuff, I personally don't worry. Audio industry is evolving pretty fast exactly because there are many small developers, which are quick to clone ideas from other companies and add something "extra" to that. And since every user likes something different, at the end everyone is happy ;)
resonance removal is a life saver!!! :love:

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I also use eq for coloring, and compressors, already own a lot of bundles from Waves, Izotope, Melda Producion and most of the best vst on the market, and all concludes to: I use Cubase, and some people like reaper I don't like reaper and for me it looks like a toy and doesn't have what I need, also Know that some good records are mixed with reaper and have seen mixes from records that I love that are mixed with reaper's internal plugs, that I don't like certain tool makes that tool bad.
exactly!
When you hear someone coaxing some awesome sounding stuff out of his equipment, it is most of the time because that person understands the process and knows how to use it to it's full potential, and not because he used some of the most expensive, or at least sought after stuff.
It's sad but true, but in the end it's not the equipment but talent, experience gained through diligence, and also a bit of luck sometimes.
The actual equipment often plays imo a very small amount into the this.
The GAS is always greener on the other side!

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