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"until it became so prominent that every house hold had at least two people with the same instruments making the same tracks over and over AND..."
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vurt wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:55 am
gnu23 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:48 pm
vurt wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:46 pm like jim morissons dad, was captain of the ship, from the bay of potemkin, which lead to the vietnam war.
Err..Gulf of Tonkin.

At this point, I'm pretty sure you're MSU.

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mumpcake wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:57 pm How is it the music industry has not flooded the airwaves with similar stuff?
Because it has been flooded with similar stuff, years before Foo Fighters came out even. As people have pointed out, there's nothing original about their sound, what is there to "copy"?

To their credit, this isn't new or really unique, most bands don't meld enough divergent influences to make a truly original sound, and truly original groups don't even usually sell that well in the first place. The Ramones first album went gold 38 years after its release. Same with the Stooges, Sabbath, Throbbing Gristle, Kraftwerk even haven't sold half as much as I would have thought.

Now plenty of groups have copied them and went on to become massively popular. There really isn't any realistic reason to think that influential bands and popular bands have anything to do with each other, rare exceptions exist, but mostly influential bands that other bands admire etc. that become part of their sound are underrated by the general public, because we as an audience don't like the shock of the new, we like the shock of the almost new but already publicly accepted.

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machinesworking wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:26 pm
mumpcake wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:57 pm How is it the music industry has not flooded the airwaves with similar stuff?
Because it has been flooded with similar stuff, years before Foo Fighters came out even. As people have pointed out, there's nothing original about their sound, what is there to "copy"?
tbh, they're a bit bland really.
i don't think they'd have been quite as big, if they'd just been a regular band, with no ex nirvana member to get them publicity before he even recorded a note :shrug:

couple of decent tracks, but nothing really memorable, like pretty much every nirvana song for example...
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vurt wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:46 pm
machinesworking wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:26 pm
mumpcake wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:57 pm How is it the music industry has not flooded the airwaves with similar stuff?
Because it has been flooded with similar stuff, years before Foo Fighters came out even. As people have pointed out, there's nothing original about their sound, what is there to "copy"?
tbh, they're a bit bland really.
i don't think they'd have been quite as big, if they'd just been a regular band, with no ex nirvana member to get them publicity before he even recorded a note :shrug:

couple of decent tracks, but nothing really memorable, like pretty much every nirvana song for example...
Yep, they're popular IMO because bland has been popular for a while now.
When I was in my 20's I thought it was going to take some really truly extreme music to make me be the old guy that doesn't understand "music these days", then by my late 30's indie rock started copying Muzak versions of 60's folk rock. They did it, they figured out that people previously liked some sort of edge tonally, melodically, or just in overall vibe, so they stripped that all out. They took it all away, and we're left with groups that sound like their major influence was 80's elevator music versions of 60's and 70's songs. Foo Fighters are the dad rock version of all the intentionally dull indie rock of the last decade or more.

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Nickleback has sold even more records.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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Everyone's taste in music is subjective.

That said, the thing I remember most about Nirvana is the opening of Smells Like Teen Spirit. I had given up on American bands by then because, as I remember it, no one seemed to be trying anything new. Just Van Halen rehashes leading to hair band after hair band. I was listening to a Washington, DC-area FM station that was leading-edge in that they really scoured to pull out the best deep cuts from the UK and Europe, and obscure US bands like Fishbone and Wall of Voodoo, and those weirdos, The Pixies. :-P

When Smells Like Teen Spirit hit the airwaves, I recall saying to a friend, "That drives a stake through the heart of hair bands." At the time, it was the modern Purple Haze. Everything was different, and better..for a while.

And of course, the LOUDsoftLOUD formula would replicate to market saturation. Record companies did the same thing with Rap and HipHop. And so on.
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We shall see orchestral machines with a thousand new sounds, with thousands of new euphonies, as opposed to the present day's simple sounds of strings, brass, and woodwinds. -- George Antheil, circa 1925 ---

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Yeah, the reason why there were waves of copycat bands in the first place had not overly much to do with the artists themselves, but the record companies that ran the industry. when VH or LZ came out the record companies demanded more, and it didn't take much to convince 20-something bands to modify their approach to accommodate the companies that were dangling multi million dollar advances and lots of parties with hookers and blow in front of them.

As concerns the Foo Fighters, first, I think there was a small wave of copycat bands, like the aforementioned nickleback, three doors down, etc... which is problematic because the Foo's are generally liked, and nickleback generally held in disdain for what is similarly bland hard rock. second, there isn't any record companies pushing rock in general anymore, so there isn't a real push for any perceived stylistic gravy train, and that decline of the rock record industry was well in effect during the "reign" of the Foo Fighters.

lastly, if you happen to want a Foo-ish band to listen to/root for, there is The Warning, three teenage sisters from Monterrey Mexico who fell in love with rock music via the Rock Band videogame when they were tiny, and have taken it from there to 2 independent album releases and shortly will be their first major release (the first Mexican rock band ever to be signed to a major American label) They break zero new ground with the music, but the bass player prowls the stage like a teenage girl version of Gene Simmons, the drummer can sing lead and hits the drums at least 75 percent harder than she has to, and on the rare occasions when usual lead singer/guitarist Dani starts belting out in the upper register, I can hear echoes of people like Ann Wilson. It works.


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Foo Fighters fit seamlessly into 1990s rock radio. Their longevity is genuinely impressive, but they're fundamentally a legacy act selling to an ever-diminishing audience they built 25 years ago. Sure there's the odd outlier like Greta Van Fleet, but the 45+ demographic isn't really a group that new bands take by storm. What would cloning Foo Fighters look like? To clone Foo Fighters now, you'd need to crack time travel and fit seamlessly into 1990s rock radio first.

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vurt wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:59 pm also dash, you seem to the one not having fun, in the box, have you tried getting out of the box?

i recommend some nice acoustic instruments, for you to feel the music :ud:

seems like you missed it, but i was all hardware, and went "ITB" around 2001, when i got married and had a kid. i think i went all ITB around 2004-5 ish. the kid is older now and moving on.... see what's happening in my evolution here? i see it coming.

also, i'm on the road a lot, and travel a lot, and tend to play with you guys in the evenings before i go to bed, then wake up and read the threads. i don't always have good internet access.

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jancivil wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:04 pm "until it became so prominent that every house hold had at least two people with the same instruments making the same tracks over and over AND..."
:lol:
Free your mind and your ass will follow

household, one word btfw
you are probably very talented, or at least have great taste, but are entirely too serious for most to take you seriously. practice giving up more.

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vurt wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:46 pm
machinesworking wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 6:26 pm
mumpcake wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:57 pm How is it the music industry has not flooded the airwaves with similar stuff?
Because it has been flooded with similar stuff, years before Foo Fighters came out even. As people have pointed out, there's nothing original about their sound, what is there to "copy"?
tbh, they're a bit bland really.
i don't think they'd have been quite as big, if they'd just been a regular band, with no ex nirvana member to get them publicity before he even recorded a note :shrug:

couple of decent tracks, but nothing really memorable, like pretty much every nirvana song for example...
Sums it up well. Couldn't help noticing most press I saw about foo fighters over the years was what a swell,affable,all around cool guy Grohl is,which is nice
but doesn't exactly say much about the discog
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grohls high end, bright sound comes from a ... surprise! neve board. like, a real, original neve that he bought. it was pricey.

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Dasheesh wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:27 am grohls high end, bright sound comes from a ... surprise! neve board. like, a real, original neve that he bought. it was pricey.
im sure he can afford it :hihi:
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ShawnG wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 3:01 am
melomood wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:00 am https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aJg4OJxp-co
lol. I do actually like GVF, and I give them props, not only for sounding like Led Zeppelin, (which is a great sound, but has been done before) but also for not acknowledging their influence which is the most Led Zeppelin thing that you could possibly do.
I wonder if they are supposed to be a parody or some kind of in-joke. Maybe some sort of Spinal Zep?
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