Cubase 12 leaked on Steinberg's site

[antic604]

I suspect, like others do, its the dongle drop, and M1 support. The dongle drop I would assume is taking a lot longer and making the new system integrated and working its going to take 2 years.

I can't see much else being added, and if that is the case, that V12 is more to do with the Dongle Drop and M1 support with a limited amount of new features and improvements, I hope the price is going to reflect that, because i'd rather keep the dongle and make M1 support a point update for free as it should be.

Apple Silicone - sure. But dongle drop? How is that involving the core code of Cubase? Unless they've somehow originally embedded it into every bit of software, e.g. before you can draw a note Cubase checks if dongle is inserted

I think 90% of the delay is AS. If that's the case, they should release 11.5 / 12 soon for Windows people and have the macOS version catch up in due time

[chk071]

Apple Silicone - sure. But dongle drop? How is that involving the core code of Cubase? Unless they've somehow originally embedded it into every bit of software, e.g. before you can draw a note Cubase checks if dongle is inserted

Good point actually. It affects all supported Steinberg software, not just Cubase. And, I think it's a different developer team anyway.

[pixel85]

I for one would be glad to see a numeric update (e.g., 11 to 12) every year or so if that meant that Steinberg would stop trying to justify these paid 0.5 updates by including unneeded FX plugins and (even worse) more useless content. Just build the world's best DAW and leave all the FX and content releases to third party companies who do it better.

Sorry but changing version numbers will not magically speed up development process by 200%. You would get the same features and content, just without 0.5 in name.

I think you miss my point (which seems pretty obvious if you actually read my post). But let me state it in a manner you will hopefully understand: If Steinberg stops developing FX plugins and content libraries for their various instruments and FX, that would free up resources to work on core DAW features and legacy code cleanup. This would speed up development. Make sense?

My point is that they wouldn't change their development process anyway. x.5 would be replaced with X but everything would stay the same. What is useless or pointless for you, for them is worth doing because it brings them money. Apparently it's to attract new users who doesn't have tons of 3rd party plugins already.
I also don't need another dynamic EQ that is not even half as good as the one that I have or advanced delay that is more CPU heavy than newest analog synth emulations
But old users are not that important for them. Not as much as new users are.

[dellboy]

So either it was a genuine mistake, which means that the leak is true, but was not supposed to be announced yet - it was a planned marketing leak (common ploy) - or the website was hacked. Whatever the reason, Steinberg need to issue a clarifying statement for those who purchased or activated during the period the offer was live.

[Gadget Fiend]

But old users are not that important for them. Not as much as new users are.

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You know, you're absolutely right about that.

[noiseboyuk]

I'll confess a planned leak does sound insane to me. No mention of features, no dates, it looks very bad and potentially a legal problem for anyone who saw it and bought it on the basis of that info.

It's not a BRILLIANT underground marketing strategy now, is it?

[LoveEnigma18]

The Cubase 11 grace period button and info. which was here https://www.steinberg.net/cubase/new-features/, is now gone after the leak and its removal.

[Gadget Fiend]

It's not a BRILLIANT underground marketing strategy now, is it?

Seriously?

[chk071]

So either it was a genuine mistake, which means that the leak is true, but was not supposed to be announced yet - it was a planned marketing leak (common ploy) - or the website was hacked. Whatever the reason, Steinberg need to issue a clarifying statement for those who purchased or activated during the period the offer was live.

It wasn't really online for long though. And, I'm sure the least will have read it. I'd be damned if there even was a single person who bought because of that. And, even if he/she did, Steinberg will surely either offer a refund, or a free upgrade, if Cubase 12 is actually released. No big deal IMO.

[dellboy]

It wasn't really online for long though. And, I'm sure the least will have read it. I'd be damned if there even was a single person who bought because of that. And, even if he/she did, Steinberg will surely either offer a refund, or a free upgrade, if Cubase 12 is actually released. No big deal IMO.

I am sure you are right, and I am over reacting,and I am glad I did not activate the upgrade that I bought in the sale in July. Actually, the message did not say anything about buying Cubase, only "activating" it. There was one person in this thread who said they bought it after seeing the offer on the website.

[v1o]

The Cubase 11 grace period button and info. which was here https://www.steinberg.net/cubase/new-features/, is now gone after the leak and its removal.

Yep its now gone. But they said they will provide more details next week.

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... /748123/10

Hi all,

This wasn’t supposed to be there without any context. We have removed it again.

The Grace Period has not started yet.

There will be more details coming in the next week.

Please excuse the confusion.

[noiseboyuk]

Ah that sounds good from Matthias (who is great, btw) - more details in the coming week. Which brings me to...

It's not a BRILLIANT underground marketing strategy now, is it?

Seriously?

Well now.

Let's say you are Steinberg. You have Cubase 12 on the way. For the past decade the next version comes out at this time of year. But darn - it's not quite ready to roll out. You have 4 choices.

A - Say nothing and release it in a few months, fending off the baying mob.

B - Release it in an unfinished state, fending off the baying mob.

C - Produce a nice glitzy announcement with all the shiny upcoming features, start a grace period, push the actual release date into next year and have a few weeks excitement to build up momentum.

D - C, but the week before the announcement put up a contextless message up on the website, twice in a row, hurriedly withdraw it, apologise for the confusion, face the problems of people endlessly saying "has the grace period started" and potentially customers who bought it, activated and are now saying "BUT YOU SAID ON YOUR WEBSITE" and generally fending off the baying mob. Then C.

But sure. I'm the gullible one.

[chk071]

The Cubase 11 grace period button and info. which was here https://www.steinberg.net/cubase/new-features/, is now gone after the leak and its removal.

Yep its now gone. But they said they will provide more details next week.

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... /748123/10

Hi all,

This wasn’t supposed to be there without any context. We have removed it again.

The Grace Period has not started yet.

There will be more details coming in the next week.

Please excuse the confusion.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

[DrGonzo]

Big time OT, but I got a bit nostalgic the other day when I reconnected my old Atari ST for doing some criminally lofi samples with it. That's where it all began. Cubase was probably the first software I ever bought. Damn how proud I was

[sQeetz]

dongle drop