Unbelievable price hike...

[Aloysius]

Milk up 40% here. Etc. They usually say 9% inflation but it's a lot more than that in reality.

[BONES]

Things aren't nearly that bad here, although all the floods we had earlier in the year have made fresh vegetables more expensive. But I doubt my grocery bill is more than a few dollars more than it was a year ago. Mostly there are just things you can't get, like iceberg lettuce, dried apricots or button mushrooms, so not quite the end of the world.

[MadDogE134]

call it what you will lol... when people stop buying there are only two options... liquidate and close the doors or reduce prices. companies need to rethink their profit margins. those that have been or are in business know most all things start near 100% markup.

as for online... if anyone has noticed in the last few years even before the mass panic... product is a set price across the board. go to five outlets and note prices on an item... it will be the same no matter where you look so basically true capitalism (competition) is on the way out. there are no pricing wars anymore. even when it comes to software (no stock) most companies (outlets) have to sell at stated prices and in turn offer in store credit such as Sweetwater and Audiodeluxe to name a couple to try and sway purchasers into buying from them.

you kids that support globalism/socialism are shooting yourselves in the foot and just don't know it yet. at least in my lifetime one could shop for a better price... now you pay what is demanded and the only way to combat the demands is to not purchase. for now at least only you control your bank account lol but that may change too

[Biome_Digital]

You're not in a recession because wikipedia edited the definition of a recession, so.

[chk071]

Yeah, not a new thing. Prices have been higher for quite some time now.

One exception used to be Behringer, at least in synth-land, IIRC. Now even theirs are a little higher. Around 10-12%, in some cases, around here.

Yeah, they've gone a little higher as well. Not nearly as severe as Moog, DSI, Waldorf, and other brands though.

[BONES]

call it what you will lol... when people stop buying there are only two options... liquidate and close the doors or reduce prices.

That's an assumption you can't back up. Maybe there is no room to reduce prices? You can't run a business by selling your goods for less than you pay for them, therefore you can't say that reducing prices is necessarily an option.

as for online... if anyone has noticed in the last few years even before the mass panic... product is a set price across the board. go to five outlets and note prices on an item... it will be the same no matter where you look

I have not found that to be the case at all. I can always find someone who is cheaper. Here's a perfect example - three different prices in the first four listings -

https://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_fro ... o&_sacat=0

[Hink]

call it what you will lol... when people stop buying there are only two options... liquidate and close the doors or reduce prices. companies need to rethink their profit margins. those that have been or are in business know most all things start near 100% markup.

as for online... if anyone has noticed in the last few years even before the mass panic... product is a set price across the board. go to five outlets and note prices on an item... it will be the sad no matter where you look so basically true capitalism (competition) is on the way out. there are no pricing wars anymore. even when it comes to software (no stock) most companies (outlets) have to sell at stated prices and in turn offer in store credit such as Sweetwater and Audiodeluxe to name a couple to try and sway purchasers into buying from them.

you kids that support globalism/socialism are shooting yourselves in the foot and just don't know it yet. at least in my lifetime one could shop for a better price... now you pay what is demanded and the only way to combat the demands is to not purchase. for now at least only you control your bank account lol but that may change too

I worked music retail for years and guess who sets the prices? The fact is if you sell below a certain price you might lose that vendor, Fender was huge this way, one store I worked at we couldnt sell Fender but we could sell Squire, another I worked at I was often sent as a spy to other stores to see their prices, if they were under pricing we would call the rep and they would get a warning, second time they were in trouble and might lose Roland, Yamaha, Fender, they all did it.

The notion of shopping around for a better deal is only partially correct as you are not going to get that much off, I know you are going to tell me otherwise but I'm just gonna chuckle to myself.

You see one of the things when you work in a music store is "how much is it really?" It's that kind of market. Every store I worked in we had the price and a minimum price. I would often familiarize myself with products in the computer when it was slow so I knew. People would tell me they dont pay full price for anything, they would demand a discount or they were walking and I think most of them actually believed they got it

"okay, I can give you that guitar for $XXXX (which would be the minimum or close to it) but I cant throw in the gig bag and I cant split up the package, what I can do is give you the 29.99 gig bag for 19.99"

These gig bags had a cost to us of .02, they might have got 20 dollars off the guitar but that's it, my PM shot through the roof on that though and our commissions were based on the amount of PM each month, PM set our commission percentage, not total sales. (total sales got us past our fade)

[MadDogE134]

the gig bag thing reminds me of Snapper... a maker of lawn mowers and such here in the states... were selling replacement discharge guards (polypropylene) for their riding lawn mowers at around $60 USD years ago and i was actually running the parts (molding tech supervisor... one of my many trades) and i know for a fact they didn't have $0.22 in each one and that is not calculating in bad parts that got ground up and mixed back in (regrind) to make more parts which actually reduces the $0.22 ea lol. but where else you gonna buy a replacement discharge guard? they have you over a barrel lol

but you are right they have to abide by contractual agreements or else lose their 'official dealer' status

i reckon if you WANT something bad enough you will pay almost anything. thank goodness i am all but over the 'want' stage these days. sadly though it took many years for me to learn to be patient and content

cheers

[Hink]

I just bought a new John Deere

[BONES]

My brother sold motorcycles for a while and he said they used to mostly sell the bikes at cost and make all their money selling leathers, boots and helmets. Plus finance and insurance, of course.

i reckon if you WANT something bad enough you will pay almost anything. thank goodness i am all but over the 'want' stage these days. sadly though it took many years for me to learn to be patient and content

I've never been like that. In my hardware days there was need, because I never had everything I needed to do things the way I wanted to, and I was more than happy to pay whatever it cost to get more functionality. But want never really came into it. That said, want would sometimes contribute to decisions but I'd never pay over the odds for something I didn't really need.

[JockMcRonan]

outta here

[kritikon]

I think you'll find most of us live in the first world here. So, yeah...first world problems. If we were third world...we wouldn't be here on the internet on a forum all about utterly superfluous shite like music itself, never mind how you make music. But we're all so pleased you could take some time off your busy schedule saving the world to join us here.

[donkey tugger]

call it what you will lol... when people stop buying there are only two options... liquidate and close the doors or reduce prices. companies need to rethink their profit margins. those that have been or are in business know most all things start near 100% markup.

as for online... if anyone has noticed in the last few years even before the mass panic... product is a set price across the board. go to five outlets and note prices on an item... it will be the same no matter where you look so basically true capitalism (competition) is on the way out. there are no pricing wars anymore. even when it comes to software (no stock) most companies (outlets) have to sell at stated prices and in turn offer in store credit such as Sweetwater and Audiodeluxe to name a couple to try and sway purchasers into buying from them.

you kids that support globalism/socialism are shooting yourselves in the foot and just don't know it yet. at least in my lifetime one could shop for a better price... now you pay what is demanded and the only way to combat the demands is to not purchase. for now at least only you control your bank account lol but that may change too

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[chk071]

FFS, talk about First World Problems

I wasn't aware that being able to afford things is a first world problem.

[revvy]

FFS, talk about First World Problems

I wasn't aware that being able to afford things is a first world problem.

Well, it is these days!

Boom boom!