Arturia releases LEXICON LX-24

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:12 am Oh, and the reverb is great too!
Is it Relab quality? More? Less?
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jamcat wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:25 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:12 am Oh, and the reverb is great too!
Is it Relab quality? More? Less?
I don't have an original 224 to compare to but it seems to offer something different than the UAD version and it just sounds excellent. Demo it.

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I watched a few videos and immediately thought oh so it's not bitcrushed like all the other (including hardware) Lexicons - unless you want it to be? GREAT. And it has an Advanced mode interface with heaps of features like ducking, pitchshifting and tremolo? Great!

Logged into Arturia. Crossgrade: $29. Was planning to be smart about it and demo first but I love/trust Arturia and just bought it on the spot :dog:

Also what an excellent landing page for the product with interactive sound demo built right into the webpage. Slick marketing. Go Arturia!

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Rev LX-24 sounds beautiful, but high CPU usage is probably the only major concern with Arturia stuff, especially Pigments and a lot of their effect plugins (haven't used V Collection instruments separately).

I think Arturia should really consider doing something about it across the board. Not everyone has the latest and greatest computers.

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Bought and tried using it with Cubase. I see it's a little heavier than others such as Valhalla Verbs. On my PC env, it is OK with the CPU load which is around 6%. I usually use the reverb as sending to the one FX bus so it'll be fine.
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jamcat wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:25 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:12 am Oh, and the reverb is great too!
Is it Relab quality? More? Less?
I have the Sonsig, the Essentials and the LX480 v3 and v4.
The arturia one gave me a big smile yesterday inserted on a snare and on a kick track, sound very solid and believable. The Relabs are totally ok ofc, but this arturia one worked right the first time I worked with it in secs. Used around 10% per instance, but that is 10% of 1 thread of the 32 I have, so neglectable really, especially if you use it as an AUX send instead of individual inserts (512 samples buffer 44.1 khz) The added features on the advance page are an added bonus, I even didn't used that(yet)

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I bought it right away, and when I tested it, it sounds awesome. For me it sounds cleaner than UAD's Lexicon and UI is much much better.

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CPU usage so high with the Arturia plugins they thinking we're trying to go to Mars -_-
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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:12 am Does this release seem to fix the painfully long load times for Arturia plugins on Windows for anyone else? Note: not everyone on Windows experienced this issue. But I did. And it seems much better with the latest updates.
I just timed the LX demo on this system and it took about 15 seconds to load.

I believe one reason why Arturia plugins take so long to load is when you call one up it opens the
"ArturiaSoftwareCenterAgent.exe" and it connects to the internet. At least it does when you load the first plugin of the day. You can see the activity from your firewall:

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I tried the full version of SQ80V and it also took 15 seconds to load but there was no firewall activity.

Whatever the reason is, Arturia plugins are the slowest loading of any I own on two different systems. :shrug:

EDIT: Ok I see what's going on now. When you load the first Arturia plugin after a fresh boot it opens the agent.exe and it connects to the net. Then it stays as a running process:

Arturia 040523-2.png

Manually stop that process, load another plugin and then the Agent.exe loads again and connects to the net again.
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What I was seeing before was something like this:

1. Load an Arturia plugin for the first time after restarting my PC: 30+ seconds to load
2. Load an Arturia plugin for the second time: about 12 seconds to load

What I'm seeing now is: about 5 seconds to load no matter whether it's the first or not.

So a big change on my system!

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musicproducerdee wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:14 am CPU usage so high with the Arturia plugins they thinking we're trying to go to Mars -_-
With a long enough reverb time and the right settings you will :o

I've never messed with a Lexicon verb before -- this is fun! I kinda want to play around with turning some reverbed sounds into a sampled instrument for my MPC and other such nonsense.

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Have you guys tried to rebuild the (sqlite) presets database? You do this by deleting/renaming <install path>\Arturia\Presets\db.db3 on Windows. After next start it will rebuild that database and you should experience faster loading times. On my system the standalone plugins starts in less than 5 seconds and I've installed Arturia's plugins on different drive than my OS (device is the Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus).

I've just tested the startup times and performed the Process Monitor trace. In the file access counts it shows db.db3 database file was accessed over 82200 times, second file in the list is the license file (its name implies that) with 2205 accesses.
That shows where the time is really spent.

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Very good reverb without comparing it directly with other emulations. No "effect" reverb like Blackhole but also not like the VintageVerb. I would rather use it where the reverb should not be very modulating and big in the foreground.
CPU consumption is also shown with 14%, it motivates you to use the reverb as a send effect ;) I would have to pay 49€, probably because I don't have the FX bundle?

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:59 pm What I was seeing before was something like this:

1. Load an Arturia plugin for the first time after restarting my PC: 30+ seconds to load
2. Load an Arturia plugin for the second time: about 12 seconds to load

What I'm seeing now is: about 5 seconds to load no matter whether it's the first or not.

So a big change on my system!
Hmmm I'm not seeing that here. Still 15-20 second load times on first load even on my studio system and again the LX demo which I assume is up to date since it's new was 15 seconds at first load this morning. I imagine part of it is loading the graphics the first time and then they're kept in memory or like I said starting the agent.exe at first load. For the record I power down my systems (Win 10) at night rather than just putting them to sleep so every morning is a fresh boot.

I don't use the Arturia plugins I own all the time so maybe I just need to apply some updates. How recently did you notice the improvement in load times?
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I'm glad more reverb plugins are starting to support ducking. Setting up compressors with multiple side chains gets so tedious.
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
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