Plugin that adds „analog flavor“ even in default setting?

[ampetrosillo]

It's been mentioned already, but it seems like no one took notice. Console 8 is a plugin that looks to be exactly what the OP wants. It's high quality, and best of all, it's free. For the price, the only thing you lose is time if it isn't exactly what you want. But be aware of this: you probably won't find a lighter and more efficient high quality plugin that simulates the color of analog preamps and mixing board channels anywhere else. I can pretty much guarantee that. So check it out, before spending any money. It works on just about every platform available.

The only problem with Console is, well, two problems. One is that Mr. Airwindows refuses to implement oversampling, so you have to either:

- work at 96kHz or higher,
- add oversampling yourself through a plugin encapsulator or the DAW (Reaper allows this, for instance)
- ignore the problem, which might be acceptable since the amount of distortion introduced is not that high

The other problem is that it's a pain to mix with Console8 because you can no longer use the DAW's faders, unless you have the option to place plugins post-fader. In Reaper, I make use of folders and nested tracks but it makes the whole thing messy.

FWIW, I have mixed a few songs with Console7 and Console8, it does make a difference, it's subtle but it's there. Everything is just a bit more glued, which is what you would expect.

Good points. I wasn't even thinking about the oversampling aspect.

FWIW, I don't think it really needs oversampling that much. It's a subtle saturation of sorts, and if you think that what we perceive as balanced sound follows the pink noise frequency curve, the chances of high mids and treble of inducing audible aliasing are relatively slim. I actually did a comparison, summing through Console8 at 48kHz vs 96kHz, and the differences were tiny.

This is a song I mixed through Console8, FWIW. I'm not really happy with the mastering, which I didn't do (it's a bit too trebly without being airy, if it makes any sense) but the general sound is nice:

[jens]

But i confused if you dont want to process L+R differently and u dont like the plugins suggested then i dont know what to tell u rly

I never said I don't want to process L+R differently. I said that I want something that does this on a subtle level without the hassle.

FYi, this is exactly what the "True Stereo" function on the T-Racks Tape plugins does:

TRUE STEREO : even a perfectly aligned tape machine will have a slight level, EQ and distortion differences between the left and right channels. This is good and part of the analog recording mojo! If a perfectly identical L and R processing is a must, simply disable this feature.

[Sutnikoev]

But i confused if you dont want to process L+R differently and u dont like the plugins suggested then i dont know what to tell u rly

I never said I don't want to process L+R differently. I said that I want something that does this on a subtle level without the hassle.

FYi, this is exactly what the "True Stereo" function on the T-Racks Tape plugins does:

TRUE STEREO : even a perfectly aligned tape machine will have a slight level, EQ and distortion differences between the left and right channels. This is good and part of the analog recording mojo! If a perfectly identical L and R processing is a must, simply disable this feature.

I took a look. the cheapest one is 118 euros after taxes. Will think about it but at first glance its too expensive for my purpose. I have way too many tape things already. Thanks nonetheless

[jens]

Ah, nope, that is of course way too much (even though they're lovely) - they often have tremedous deals, just no suitable one right now it appears... that was different one or two weeks ago.

B.t.w.: for most of the T-Racks plugins it really couldn't be easier to tweak the parameters independently for the L/R (or M/S) channel. Making ever so slight variations between both channels only takes about half a minute or so and will result in a subtle but very nice stereo-enhancement that is also going to be fairly mono-compatible.

[Sutnikoev]

Klanghelm IVGI is free, maintained, does noise, crosstalk and harmonics, including even ordered ones.

I own all Klanghelm plugins. Ivgi as far as I remember does not do something by default until you match the level and it stars working.
I want something that adds 0,5% mojo simply by throwing it on a track regardless of the level of the channel.
I don`t want a plugin that I have to check each instance and set it every single time for every single channel. This is what I do for years now. This is what I don't want to do anymore

[CinningBao]

You've had some very reasonable suggestions in this thread so far.. I tend to go with True Iron and more recently Kush Audio Omega 458a to tickle the signal a little.

However, you saying you want to be able to add a thing to make magic in your channel strips whatever-the-volume, is unreasonable. If you stick a thing in it and your signal is above 0dB, you'll be slamming the ever-loving life out of whatever you're using to add mojo.

Consider that you might still need to manage the volume of the signal prior to the mojo-magic-box.

..Unless you're putting it on, say, bus mix channels where the levels have all been well-managed prior to that position in your chain.. True Iron and Omega do exactly as you desire. Nice thing about Omega is that there are no other 'models' or adjustments; you stick it on and either you like it or you don't.

[diroxe7660]

Ivgi as far as I remember does not do something by default until you match the level and it stars working.

IVGI colours the signal at all times, regardless of input level. There is no magic threshold you need to cross and no levels you need to match. The EQ curve, added harmonics and noise are active at all times. If you slam it with +4dB, you'll get more of everything of course.

[ghettosynth]

Just run all of your tracks out to a patch bay and then route them back in on the back of the bay with dodgy patch cables. Bonus if you put it on the floor so the cat can walk over it. To vary the amount of analog grit, just put towels over the top. More towels means less pressure from the cat paws will reach the patch cables, so less grit.

[Sutnikoev]

You've had some very reasonable suggestions in this thread so far.. I tend to go with True Iron and more recently Kush Audio Omega 458a to tickle the signal a little.

However, you saying you want to be able to add a thing to make magic in your channel strips whatever-the-volume, is unreasonable. If you stick a thing in it and your signal is above 0dB, you'll be slamming the ever-loving life out of whatever you're using to add mojo.

Consider that you might still need to manage the volume of the signal prior to the mojo-magic-box.

..Unless you're putting it on, say, bus mix channels where the levels have all been well-managed prior to that position in your chain.. True Iron and Omega do exactly as you desire. Nice thing about Omega is that there are no other 'models' or adjustments; you stick it on and either you like it or you don't.

The magic mojo box (at least in my head) follows the signal and never goes "slamming" that's the beauty of it
The Omegas are on my list to check cause I always wanted to test Kush plugins but never got to cause I have too many others

[highkoo]

Anyone using these?-
https://wavdsp.com/analogcreator/

Kazrog is my go to for a 'transparent' hardware effect.
It feels like Klanghelm has some kind of mojo inside their stuff also.

[jamcat]

Anyone using these?-
https://wavdsp.com/analogcreator/

I demoed some WAVDSP but ended up not being too impressed. Though I honestly couldn't tell you why anymore.

[Sutnikoev]

Just run all of your tracks out to a patch bay and then route them back in on the back of the bay with dodgy patch cables. Bonus if you put it on the floor so the cat can walk over it. To vary the amount of analog grit, just put towels over the top. More towels means less pressure from the cat paws will reach the patch cables, so less grit.

I already own dirty cables. I am used to the sound by now

[mixtur.se]

Kazrog true iron

[MogwaiBoy]

I want something that adds 0,5% mojo simply by throwing it on a track regardless of the level of the channel.
I don`t want a plugin that I have to check each instance and set it every single time for every single channel. This is what I do for years now. This is what I don't want to do anymore

OK, then however many pages into this thread, and after my first post - I do actually have the perfect plugin for what you're looking for.

https://sonimus.com/products/aconsole

You can literally drop the Channel instance on every channel and walk away - done. It adds the slightest touch of mojo - and if you put it last in the chain, any gain increases before it will just push into it more, creating more mojo without worry of it sounding bad/clipping. So is essentially set-and-forget.

If you want to get fancy you can get into the channel/bus grouping functions with super subtle crosstalk, which again imparts mojo, but you don't have to. There's no EQ or compression settings to worry about, just high and low pass filters which are OFF by default.

64-bit double precision internal processing and super high oversampling quality settings.

Neve console version coming soon.

[El°HYM]

Does it also finally crosstalk to its neighbor channels like an old console would do?