PlugInBoutique Scaler EQ just released today!
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 9 Jun, 2022
Scaler EQ sounds exactly like any other minimum phase EQ on the planet If you are doing the same thing with it. Here's a comparison: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n ... r8red&dl=0dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
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- Banned
- 580 posts since 27 May, 2023
sure Davide, but you can prove anything with factsdavidec wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:40 amScaler EQ sounds exactly like any other minimum phase EQ on the planet If you are doing the same thing with it. Here's a comparison: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n ... r8red&dl=0dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
- KVRian
- 632 posts since 19 Aug, 2020 from the top of the charts
Maybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right?dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
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- Banned
- 580 posts since 27 May, 2023
you can have as many notes in the scale as you want, expand that over multiple octaves or just the one octave (ie a single note) and have different scales for each filter band. It is very flexible. Probably the feature Id most like to see added would be solo for multiple bands at oncewangeroge wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:51 amMaybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right?dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.![]()
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- KVRian
- 632 posts since 19 Aug, 2020 from the top of the charts
If you use the C major scale and play a C, it will kill the 7th, 11th, 13th and 14th overtone which are not close to the major scale (Bb, F#, G#). It will be even worse for other tones of the scale, right?neverbefore wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:58 amyou can have as many notes in the scale as you want, expand that over multiple octaves or just the one octave (ie a single note) and have different scales for each filter band. It is very flexiblewangeroge wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:51 amMaybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right?dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.![]()
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- Banned
- 580 posts since 27 May, 2023
not unless you want to - you should try it out, you will quickly find that it is more flexible than that.wangeroge wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:12 amIf you use the C major scale and play a C, it will kill the 7th, 11th, 13th and 14th overtone which are not close to the major scale (Bb, F#, G#). It will be even worse for other tones of the scale, right?neverbefore wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:58 amyou can have as many notes in the scale as you want, expand that over multiple octaves or just the one octave (ie a single note) and have different scales for each filter band. It is very flexiblewangeroge wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:51 amMaybe it kills the overtones. The overtones don't always lie on the frequencies of the scale. This will only make the first note of the scale sound good, right?dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.![]()
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- Banned
- 580 posts since 27 May, 2023
here is a demo of scalerEQ, two instances with asingle soloed band fed a C3 using Pigments 'lounge organ'. I have automated the frequency parameter randomly up and down. The scale for one is d# e for the other f# g# although I changed that while recording and I am still not completely sure how that intereacts with the primary scale setting - not much perhaps but that might be different with more comnplex inputs (tested and it is)
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 9 Jun, 2022
Facts vs Instincts. Ha! I guess they are both as important as each other, thanks for the laugh. PS - I will keep your feature request in mindneverbefore wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:33 amsure Davide, but you can prove anything with factsdavidec wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:40 amScaler EQ sounds exactly like any other minimum phase EQ on the planet If you are doing the same thing with it. Here's a comparison: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/k5hpdy8n ... r8red&dl=0dionenoid wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:42 pm Okay, so i just wasted time demoing this. I've never heard an eq sound this bad.
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- KVRer
- 13 posts since 14 Jun, 2023
Seem like it would be interesting if using pythagorean tuning.
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- KVRist
- 484 posts since 8 May, 2007
Although brief, this post suggests to me a number of potential misunderstandings regarding patents. For the US patent system:neverbefore wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:32 am patents only have value if you can enforce them and the most seemingly trivial of designs can be patented eg https://www.theverge.com/2012/11/7/3614 ... ed-corners
but this eq seems to have many many aspects that are new in combination - which is patentable even if the individual components are not particularly novel (and I dont know if a scale based eq is novel or not)
The potential combination mentioned in the post above must *also* not be obvious "to a person having ordinary skill in the art to which the claimed invention pertains." 35 U.S.C. 103. Variations of the magnitudes of frequency components of filters with multiple peaks are certain to be considered by any audio engineer with ordinary skill in the art, i.e. obvious.
At this time, rendering a verdict about patentability is extremely premature unless one has read the claims and researched prior art. This is unlikely because it appears that the application has yet to be published in Australia or the US.
Abstract ideas are not patentable in the US. Therefore, simply suggesting a combination of this filter and that filter in a new way is not patentable without disclosing each process in a step-by-step fashion. Expanding a bit: So-called "software patents" don't exist at USPTO; they are process patents, a type of utility patent, and usually involve a description of machine operations rather than steps that appear to resemble a mathematical algorithm, the latter being non-patentable. The way in which so-called "software patents" are written makes if difficult for anyone who objects to software patents not to also object to most if not all process patents.
It's nearly always possible to obtain a very narrow, nearly innocuous patent that examiners will no longer object to, so one could predict that a patent of some sort is somewhat likely to eventually be granted for processes in Scaler EQ, but that would not really be saying much at all. The real question is whether or not broad claims will be granted, which IMO would be a grievous error.
- KVRist
- 309 posts since 18 Apr, 2019
- KVRian
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
I think it was not their intention but the best use case for this plugin is indeed to use it as a resonatormartiu wrote: Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:01 pm it is very good for sound design with the tuned resonators, you can make instruments from random sounds, you need tal sampler also though
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