If you count the initial lurking, and the database crash in the beginning, some of us had already been on KVRAudio for a few years already, by the time 2004 rolled around.lmv wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:18 am A lot of people here hadn't been born in 2004.
I had, but I never knew KVR was that old.
Why do DAWs sound different?
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
vurt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:29 amyou young whippersnapper don't know what it was like, dial up internet, 20 min download for an image, forget video or audio of any great length. unless you know, no one will use the home phone for 24 hours per min of audio!!! in 32bit mp3lmv wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:18 am A lot of people here hadn't been born in 2004.
I had, but I never knew KVR was that old.![]()
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 26 Jul, 2021
The problem is you are behind us in time. We can't wait forever. So we moved on.EfreetiSultan wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 5:37 pmBro, that game is from the 70s and the guy you quoted talked about 1994 but thought he was talking about 2004. What's wrong with you people? Why can't you get it right. It's really not hard.Awats wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:37 pmAt least I could play Colossal Cave!vurt wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:29 amyou young whippersnapper don't know what it was like, dial up internet, 20 min download for an image, forget video or audio of any great length. unless you know, no one will use the home phone for 24 hours per min of audio!!! in 32bit mp3lmv wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:18 am A lot of people here hadn't been born in 2004.
I had, but I never knew KVR was that old.![]()
- addled muppet weed
- 111283 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
time travel messes you up.
- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
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https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRist
- 172 posts since 1 Aug, 2015
DAW's do not sound different. I'm most stubborn , perfectionist amongst al. back in a day , (multiple DAW user) every time I opened Logic it sounded 3d , multidimensional and reach in terms of sound amongst all DAW's . then I noticed default Logic project had compressor and Space reverb on master channel . when I took them out it sounded same as every other DAW.
All DAW's sound the same . it's either placebo effect (person with visual impairment would confirm it ) or there's effects on master bus . something along this lines .
All DAW's sound the same . it's either placebo effect (person with visual impairment would confirm it ) or there's effects on master bus . something along this lines .
- KVRian
- 906 posts since 27 Apr, 2018
Just to exclude: you are 100% sure you are running both projects on the same sample rate? Because there are some plugins, which behave differently at different sample rates.lmv wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:06 pm Listen for yourself. 3 times on Qtractor then 3 times on Waveform, both on Linux:
https://0x0.st/X7sa.mp3
Exact same plugin and same preset on a brand new, blank project.
Why so different?
- KVRAF
- 1625 posts since 28 Jan, 2004
- KVRAF
- 16804 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
It's named "Sine Sweep.wav"NAD wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:15 am Try downloading these files:
https://limewire.com/d/f4ca7006-1013-4f ... Mas-p7tsgY
And then what?
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
- KVRAF
- 1625 posts since 28 Jan, 2004
I meant that the op should try running it through his setup and sharing the results, then we might perhaps all be the wiser. There's a 4 second sine sweep and 4 seconds of white noise, two files.BertKoor wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:30 amIt's named "Sine Sweep.wav"NAD wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:15 am Try downloading these files:
https://limewire.com/d/f4ca7006-1013-4f ... Mas-p7tsgY
And then what?

- KVRAF
- 4891 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
I'd like to do that. I brought up some points that I thought might be worth investigating back on page 3, but they were ignored. You never mentioned the plugin or the preset, nor whether or not this issue is specific to that preset or that plugin, so what are the rest of us supposed to do? I could easily enough load up a random plugin with a random preset and create a random MIDI clip to test in a variety of DAWs, but that wouldn't really prove much.
Surely there must be consensus by now...