Whatever you want it to do. Tell me, why would anybody need all those synths anyway. Doesn't Falcon do everything you want it to do?dune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 4:38 pm What can this new synth offer, for someone who has almost all big name synths like serum, sylenth, vital, halion, falcon, avenger, omnisphere, korg collection, zebra, diva, repro, massive , current etc ?
Ultra Audio - Ultra (A fancy Vital-style synth that popped up out of nowhere)
- KVRAF
- 22875 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
That's perhaps not a gimmick though, just a feature.Uncle E wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:03 pmYes, you're right. Sorry, I didn't mean that as a slight.dmbaer wrote: Wed Dec 24, 2025 8:55 pm Assuming the OP's post is accurate, then a two-dimensional wave table would be something unique and potentially quite exciting. I have not such a thing in any other synth.
Different waves for pitch is already a standard optimisation for wavetables, higher as each octave play a wave twice as fast.
I'm not totally sure how a dimension for velocity would bring, but this is used for real instrument samples so I guess has some potential for wavetables...
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 4 Jun, 2017
I mean, the major novelty of this synth are its velocity and pitch mapping/blending of wave tables made from sample sources. That and whether some of its UI conveniences are liked.
It’s very valid and honest feedback to get input from consumers on pricing given the market. Not everyone can just own everything. Those who own everything are typically collectors moreso than driven by utility or novelty, so redundancy and comparisons are to some degree besides the point to them.
It’s a new wavetable type synth in a market that has been heavily saturated with wavetable power synths and it’s pricing itself alongside the absolute most expensive products in the industry. I do think it may not be the smartest business decision honestly, even though it seems like nice software.
It’s very valid and honest feedback to get input from consumers on pricing given the market. Not everyone can just own everything. Those who own everything are typically collectors moreso than driven by utility or novelty, so redundancy and comparisons are to some degree besides the point to them.
It’s a new wavetable type synth in a market that has been heavily saturated with wavetable power synths and it’s pricing itself alongside the absolute most expensive products in the industry. I do think it may not be the smartest business decision honestly, even though it seems like nice software.
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- KVRAF
- 3042 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary
No, Falcon cant do everything!wagtunes wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 5:47 pmWhatever you want it to do. Tell me, why would anybody need all those synths anyway. Doesn't Falcon do everything you want it to do?dune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 4:38 pm What can this new synth offer, for someone who has almost all big name synths like serum, sylenth, vital, halion, falcon, avenger, omnisphere, korg collection, zebra, diva, repro, massive , current etc ?
For example Vital does TEXT TO WAVETABLE , and Falcon not.
Falcon has unique sequencers and Vital don't.
Omnisphere has hardware integration and Sound match - many others don't have.
Halion has FMLab, a superb fm synth, many others don't have.
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So back to my original question: Is there something unique feature in this new synth?
Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@SoftSynthPortal
- KVRAF
- 10128 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
2D wavetables synths arent new
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 4 Jun, 2017
It’s mostly what I said in my post. The velocity and pitch mapping/blending. You can watch their YouTube videos to see them explained a bit more.dune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 6:53 pmNo, Falcon cant do everything!wagtunes wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 5:47 pmWhatever you want it to do. Tell me, why would anybody need all those synths anyway. Doesn't Falcon do everything you want it to do?dune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 4:38 pm What can this new synth offer, for someone who has almost all big name synths like serum, sylenth, vital, halion, falcon, avenger, omnisphere, korg collection, zebra, diva, repro, massive , current etc ?
For example Vital does TEXT TO WAVETABLE , and Falcon not.
Falcon has unique sequencers and Vital don't.
Omnisphere has hardware integration and Sound match - many others don't have.
Halion has FMLab, a superb fm synth, many others don't have.
....
So back to my original question: Is there something unique feature in this new synth?
- KVRist
- 144 posts since 13 Jun, 2023 from Wellington, New Zealand
The UltraWave oscillator is something that no other synth has. I'm hesitant to link to this video because the UI has been updated a lot since I made it, but this is a good explanationdune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 4:38 pm What can this new synth offer, for someone who has almost all big name synths like serum, sylenth, vital, halion, falcon, avenger, omnisphere, korg collection, zebra, diva, repro, massive , current etc ?
https://ultra.audio
Wellington, New Zealand
Wellington, New Zealand
- KVRAF
- 22875 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
In other words, does this synth have a feature that all those other synths combined don't have? Nobody can answer that question because I seriously doubt that anybody here knows every single feature in all of those synths and every feature in this synth. So your question essentially can't be answered.dune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 6:53 pmNo, Falcon cant do everything!wagtunes wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 5:47 pmWhatever you want it to do. Tell me, why would anybody need all those synths anyway. Doesn't Falcon do everything you want it to do?dune_rave wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 4:38 pm What can this new synth offer, for someone who has almost all big name synths like serum, sylenth, vital, halion, falcon, avenger, omnisphere, korg collection, zebra, diva, repro, massive , current etc ?
For example Vital does TEXT TO WAVETABLE , and Falcon not.
Falcon has unique sequencers and Vital don't.
Omnisphere has hardware integration and Sound match - many others don't have.
Halion has FMLab, a superb fm synth, many others don't have.
....
So back to my original question: Is there something unique feature in this new synth?
This is the only answer I can give you. When I heard the synth, it had a sound quality I liked so I got it.
Do with that what you will.
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 4 Jun, 2017
You really don’t need to know every possible feature in every possible synthesizer combined to answer that question, it’s not an unanswerable question. The major novelty of the synth is the so called UltraWave oscillator.
You like the synth and got it, that’s good. You like to collect synths and nobody is criticizing you for it. We’re just chatting about a new product release, this is kind of what KVR made for
You like the synth and got it, that’s good. You like to collect synths and nobody is criticizing you for it. We’re just chatting about a new product release, this is kind of what KVR made for
- KVRAF
- 22875 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Well, if an Ultrawave Oscillator is enough for this guy to buy the synth then great. But only HE knows the answer to that question. He wants to know why he should get this synth when he has all those other synths. You think that's a good enough reason? Great. The question is, does he?Benjamin923 wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 9:11 pm You really don’t need to know every possible feature in every possible synthesizer combined to answer that question, it’s not an unanswerable question. The major novelty of the synth is the so called UltraWave oscillator.
You like the synth and got it, that’s good. You like to collect synths and nobody is criticizing you for it. We’re just chatting about a new product release, this is kind of what KVR made for![]()
- KVRAF
- 20672 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Very cool! The kick drum example is killer!ultra_audio wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 8:47 pm The UltraWave oscillator is something that no other synth has. I'm hesitant to link to this video because the UI has been updated a lot since I made it, but this is a good explanation
FWIW, you might be better off lowering the initial cost and not offering lifetime upgrades. Upgrades are a significant source of income for most companies.
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- KVRian
- 1141 posts since 2 Oct, 2021
This!Uncle E wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:34 pmVery cool! The kick drum example is killer!ultra_audio wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 8:47 pm The UltraWave oscillator is something that no other synth has. I'm hesitant to link to this video because the UI has been updated a lot since I made it, but this is a good explanation
FWIW, you might be better off lowering the initial cost and not offering lifetime upgrades. Upgrades are a significant source of income for most companies.
ABX is enemy to GAS
- KVRist
- 144 posts since 13 Jun, 2023 from Wellington, New Zealand
You need to be online to sign in to it once.whassup wrote: Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:15 am What's your copy protection?
Can it be used on a 100% offline computer?
Once you're signed in, you can just use it offline.
https://ultra.audio
Wellington, New Zealand
Wellington, New Zealand
- KVRist
- 144 posts since 13 Jun, 2023 from Wellington, New Zealand
I personally like the Arturia Pigments model, where all the upgrades are free - and Serum really made a big call making version 2 free, even though it's a very different synth.Uncle E wrote: Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:34 pm FWIW, you might be better off lowering the initial cost and not offering lifetime upgrades. Upgrades are a significant source of income for most companies.
On the other end of the spectrum, Omnisphere upgraded to version 3 and it cost quite a bit.
I personally think making the product better and better over time will make it more attractive to new users, and is probably better for us in the long run than any extra income we might have received. I love this synth so I think this is the way to go.
https://ultra.audio
Wellington, New Zealand
Wellington, New Zealand
