Bitwig

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:04 pm

does cubase itself actually have that?

Granum · Post by **Granum** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:17 pm

It's pretty telling when there are so many people posting ad hominem attacks and yet there's no mod and no Dom telling them to stop. Calling people names for expressing their opinions ought to be unacceptable here and if you're doing it you are part of the problem.

We were lied to by Bitwig, like it or not. If you cannot see the irony in calling people babies on an internet forum then I'm laughing at you. Why falsely lump everyone in this thread with legitimate concerns into a big group that you can tear down with a few words? Why are you so threatened? You are not contributing anything to this conversation by calling people names, and in fact you only add fuel to the flames.

I do not have $700 phone nor would I ever purchase such a monstrosity. My phone cost 1/10 that (no plan) and it's great. We are not all the same person, and the fact that there are unrelated materialistic trends in the world has nothing to do with Bitwig's responsibility to their customers.

humanbeingbeing · Post by **humanbeingbeing** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:24 pm

Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
panox80 wrote:they want annual money for update ok,new company policy,for someone is cool for other no
..but in 3 years they don't fixed "VST UNDO" so if i have bitwig 1 and don't update to 2 i stay with a daw doesn't able to undo an operation in a vst?
amazing!
That's still an issue!? wow, it's worse than I thought, that is good test for 2.0 then, if they have vst3 support and no vst undo that's a bad sign, fingers crossed.
studio one doesnt have that either still been out longer then bitwig

So for me thats a downvote for Bitwig AND a downvote for Studio One. I can use Ableton or another app that supports it.

panox80 · Post by **panox80** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:26 pm

for what i remember cubase have it,like all most daw in the market

anyway if you are happy to work without undo i'm happy for you coockie

this update is not what i'm waiting for to stimolate to re-buy a license,and like more people says ,is no sense to pay 150 for year to do again beta tester

humanbeingbeing · Post by **humanbeingbeing** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:27 pm

Suloo wrote:does cubase itself actually have that?

yes... tho for me Ableton is the Bitwig competitor to beat.

BlackStarMuzic · Post by **BlackStarMuzic** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:53 pm

humanbeingbeing wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
panox80 wrote:they want annual money for update ok,new company policy,for someone is cool for other no
..but in 3 years they don't fixed "VST UNDO" so if i have bitwig 1 and don't update to 2 i stay with a daw doesn't able to undo an operation in a vst?
amazing!
That's still an issue!? wow, it's worse than I thought, that is good test for 2.0 then, if they have vst3 support and no vst undo that's a bad sign, fingers crossed.
studio one doesnt have that either still been out longer then bitwig
So for me thats a downvote for Bitwig AND a downvote for Studio One. I can use Ableton or another app that supports it.

Does ableton really support that? I have ableton and has never once worked for me though I stopped using it before 9.7 so did it come with/after that?

humanbeingbeing · Post by **humanbeingbeing** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:55 pm

BlackStarMuzic wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
panox80 wrote:they want annual money for update ok,new company policy,for someone is cool for other no
..but in 3 years they don't fixed "VST UNDO" so if i have bitwig 1 and don't update to 2 i stay with a daw doesn't able to undo an operation in a vst?
amazing!
That's still an issue!? wow, it's worse than I thought, that is good test for 2.0 then, if they have vst3 support and no vst undo that's a bad sign, fingers crossed.
studio one doesnt have that either still been out longer then bitwig
So for me thats a downvote for Bitwig AND a downvote for Studio One. I can use Ableton or another app that supports it.
Does ableton really support that? I have ableton and has never once worked for me though I stopped using it before 9.7 so did it come with/after that?

Yes it does really support that. Just did a sanity check with 9.7.1.

Coockie1176ln · Post by **Coockie1176ln** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:58 pm

humanbeingbeing wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
panox80 wrote:they want annual money for update ok,new company policy,for someone is cool for other no
..but in 3 years they don't fixed "VST UNDO" so if i have bitwig 1 and don't update to 2 i stay with a daw doesn't able to undo an operation in a vst?
amazing!
That's still an issue!? wow, it's worse than I thought, that is good test for 2.0 then, if they have vst3 support and no vst undo that's a bad sign, fingers crossed.
studio one doesnt have that either still been out longer then bitwig
So for me thats a downvote for Bitwig AND a downvote for Studio One. I can use Ableton or another app that supports it.

Ableton doesnt have ARA or comping and layes like studio one snd smart tool in studio one i love! Can someone tell me how smart tool works in bitwig 2.0? Undo to me on vsti isnt a big missing function, they have it in fl but thats not a selling feature to me. were is the perfect daw

humanbeingbeing · Post by **humanbeingbeing** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:01 pm

Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
panox80 wrote:they want annual money for update ok,new company policy,for someone is cool for other no
..but in 3 years they don't fixed "VST UNDO" so if i have bitwig 1 and don't update to 2 i stay with a daw doesn't able to undo an operation in a vst?
amazing!
That's still an issue!? wow, it's worse than I thought, that is good test for 2.0 then, if they have vst3 support and no vst undo that's a bad sign, fingers crossed.
studio one doesnt have that either still been out longer then bitwig
So for me thats a downvote for Bitwig AND a downvote for Studio One. I can use Ableton or another app that supports it.
Ableton doesnt have ARA or comping and layes like studio one snd smart tool in studio one i love! Can someone tell me how smart tool works in bitwig 2.0? Undo to me on vsti isnt a big missing function, they have it in fl but thats not a selling feature to me. were is the perfect daw

Studio one's comping deserves an upvote, but I've kinda gotten away from the standard linear arrangement DAW, I prefer Ableton and Bitwig's live session style.

panox80 · Post by **panox80** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:01 pm

BlackStarMuzic wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
humanbeingbeing wrote:
panox80 wrote:they want annual money for update ok,new company policy,for someone is cool for other no
..but in 3 years they don't fixed "VST UNDO" so if i have bitwig 1 and don't update to 2 i stay with a daw doesn't able to undo an operation in a vst?
amazing!
That's still an issue!? wow, it's worse than I thought, that is good test for 2.0 then, if they have vst3 support and no vst undo that's a bad sign, fingers crossed.
studio one doesnt have that either still been out longer then bitwig
So for me thats a downvote for Bitwig AND a downvote for Studio One. I can use Ableton or another app that supports it.
Does ableton really support that? I have ableton and has never once worked for me though I stopped using it before 9.7 so did it come with/after that?

ableton has infinte undo...i remember since 6 but i never use release before (we are talking about software of 2014 and not of 2000 guys)

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:09 pm

it's not about infinite or not. It's about undo on 3rd party vst right? Well, most tuff i use has that integrated anyway.

humanbeingbeing · Post by **humanbeingbeing** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:10 pm

Suloo wrote:it's not about infinite or not. It's about undo on 3rd party vst right? Well, most tuff i use has that integrated anyway.

Infinite undo on 3rd party vst works on Ableton and Cubase.

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:13 pm

just do the right things and you don't need to undo

panox80 · Post by **panox80** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:20 pm

Suloo wrote:it's not about infinite or not. It's about undo on 3rd party vst right? Well, most tuff i use has that integrated anyway.

of course you right i'ts not about infinite,,,i hope they fix cntrl z / cmd z option for 3rd party vst before 2.0 upgrade
(maschine for example in evry daw is a nightmare if you want "undo" ,it only work from his panel menu or from hardware)

Coockie1176ln · Post by **Coockie1176ln** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:30 pm

panox80 wrote:
Suloo wrote:it's not about infinite or not. It's about undo on 3rd party vst right? Well, most tuff i use has that integrated anyway.
of course you right i'ts not about infinite,,,i hope they fix cntrl z / cmd z option for 3rd party vst before 2.0 upgrade
(maschine for example in evry daw is a nightmare if you want "undo" ,it only work from his panel menu or from hardware)

Everybody mail em about it xD get their asses to work !!!

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