Running commercial audio software on linux
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- KVRAF
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- 9520 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
You can of course replace a MixBox provided amp by removing it, and use qjackctl for routing that new Plexi in Amplitube 5, into Mixbox. Clams at high tide
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- KVRAF
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- 9520 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
This is windows Reaper in wine in AVLinux, as the IK T-Racks setups work in this scenario, which has nouveau video. Camel-Crusher (pre-Apple) acts as a boost pedal for an Orange TONEX amp, sent to the legendary Sunset Studio, then ambientified a bit by the free Solaris Reverb generously shared by Adam Szabo, who also coded the Viper synth that is Virus-like in many aspects.
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- KVRAF
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- 9520 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
This is a favorite piano setup, linux Reaper with Kontakt and the Noire piano library, and the Replika diffusion ambience plugin, simple, elegant, and expressive. Sometimes just playing for a few minutes lessens the weight of the world on our shoulders...
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- KVRAF
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- 9520 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I installed the linux PianoTeq demo, added some Solaris reverb, and subtle Circle Tremolo from Rakarrack, for another delightful piano setup. Spoilt for choices we be, if a real grand piano won't fit in the kitchen
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
I noticed that recently in my current Linux, Tone2 plugin demos don't display appropriately and are unusable for that reason. The sounds are there and can be heard, but the UI is messed up. This is one of the problems with Linux and me. It sucks because I really love those Tone2 sounds.
I almost went back to Windows after that.
In comparison, all the U-he products (demos and freewares) work just fine.
I think Tone2 changed their demo EXE's is what caused the issue.
i ended up deleting them all off my system and keeping the U-he items instead.
It's okay because with u-He products and stuff like Vital, it's all good.
I almost went back to Windows after that.
In comparison, all the U-he products (demos and freewares) work just fine.
I think Tone2 changed their demo EXE's is what caused the issue.
i ended up deleting them all off my system and keeping the U-he items instead.
It's okay because with u-He products and stuff like Vital, it's all good.
- KVRAF
- 8098 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
Maybe something that could be fixed with a different Wine prefix using the alternate DXVK files. That helped me to use the Audiority and latest Klanghelm plugins.mjolnir wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:40 pm I noticed that recently in my current Linux, Tone2 plugin demos don't display appropriately and are unusable for that reason.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9520 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Hi, Icarus V1.6 is free with Computer Music Magazine issue #329, and it's working fine in AVLinux, wine-staging 9.x with windows Reaper in wine, and also in the linux Reaper wrapped by yabridge, and both are running at the same timemjolnir wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:40 pm I noticed that recently in my current Linux, Tone2 plugin demos don't display appropriately and are unusable for that reason...
I think Tone2 changed their demo EXE's is what caused the issue.
It's the full V1.6, and I think an upgrade discount to V2 is available.
Cheers
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
hey guys, thanks for the help with the Tone2 / WINE stuff.
I have never used wineprefixes or bottles or playonlinux but I've been using wine/wine-devel/wine-staging in a variety of distros and configurations since about 2014. I'm still not very advanced but I'm kind of afraid of breaking my WINE. Last time I tinkered with one of my WINE's somehow I ended up with 2 or three installed at the same time and the system and I were both confused and couldn't function right.
But I get what you are saying about winetricks fixing the missing DLL's or putting the better ones in there.
One of my problems was that I had disabled 3D rendering in WINECFG. Turns out that it's really needed by some VST's. But nonetheless, I still had a few other problems. Some got fixed by hiding the wineversion from the OS / WinDOS items, and deselecting the wine-staging experimental options.
I may give it another try since you guys all kinda mentioned the same thing.
One nice thing is that my system stabilized after I got rid of some other items from other designers.
I'm only using one wine now, not like on the other distro.
The other thing that was wierd for a while was having my distro's Reaper installed at the same time as the AppImage Reaper.
The desktop system would mix them up with each other and I'd get two different edition of preferences for Reaper. OMG so frustrating having to maintain double REAPER prefs. But I got that sussed out finally. Actually, I had 3 sets if you include the Windows version via Wine LOL.
Overall, I'm happy with the tone2 demos and might actually purchase one of them if I can get the visuals to work fine.
Their sound quality and interface is awesome.
Last but not least, I wanted to let you guys know that lately, it seems like some of the previously instable Linux distros are getting more stable despite this being one of the worst years in history in terms of Linux / Windows / MacOS security/malware concerns.
I use all three kinds of computers from time to time. Sometimes at libraries too.
I distro hop a lot, and I went through about 8 different distros and other variations of DE until I settled on my current one. I don't think we ought to always reveal our OSes, though, because online lurkers could know too much how to mess us up if we give up too much system (audit-like) info. Some might say that's paranoid, but I've had hacker / security friends show me what they know about other people's distant systems remotely, and we're too much like sitting ducks if we reveal too much too them. So peace be with you guys and us all.
Thanks for being helpful.
I have never used wineprefixes or bottles or playonlinux but I've been using wine/wine-devel/wine-staging in a variety of distros and configurations since about 2014. I'm still not very advanced but I'm kind of afraid of breaking my WINE. Last time I tinkered with one of my WINE's somehow I ended up with 2 or three installed at the same time and the system and I were both confused and couldn't function right.
But I get what you are saying about winetricks fixing the missing DLL's or putting the better ones in there.
One of my problems was that I had disabled 3D rendering in WINECFG. Turns out that it's really needed by some VST's. But nonetheless, I still had a few other problems. Some got fixed by hiding the wineversion from the OS / WinDOS items, and deselecting the wine-staging experimental options.
I may give it another try since you guys all kinda mentioned the same thing.
One nice thing is that my system stabilized after I got rid of some other items from other designers.
I'm only using one wine now, not like on the other distro.
The other thing that was wierd for a while was having my distro's Reaper installed at the same time as the AppImage Reaper.
The desktop system would mix them up with each other and I'd get two different edition of preferences for Reaper. OMG so frustrating having to maintain double REAPER prefs. But I got that sussed out finally. Actually, I had 3 sets if you include the Windows version via Wine LOL.
Overall, I'm happy with the tone2 demos and might actually purchase one of them if I can get the visuals to work fine.
Their sound quality and interface is awesome.
Last but not least, I wanted to let you guys know that lately, it seems like some of the previously instable Linux distros are getting more stable despite this being one of the worst years in history in terms of Linux / Windows / MacOS security/malware concerns.
I use all three kinds of computers from time to time. Sometimes at libraries too.
I distro hop a lot, and I went through about 8 different distros and other variations of DE until I settled on my current one. I don't think we ought to always reveal our OSes, though, because online lurkers could know too much how to mess us up if we give up too much system (audit-like) info. Some might say that's paranoid, but I've had hacker / security friends show me what they know about other people's distant systems remotely, and we're too much like sitting ducks if we reveal too much too them. So peace be with you guys and us all.
Thanks for being helpful.
- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
On a different note,
I hope everybody has a much better summer and 2025.
It's much nicer when computers are used for peacetime activities like our musics.
Thanks for keeping up the tech tips and nice attitudes about our music technooies.
it's a really nice online place here and you guys are cool.
I will try to come back here more often and share tech help if anybody needs it too.
Thanks for being nice people.
May Peace Prevail On Earth In Our Lifetimes As It Does In Heaven
(War is NOT the Answer); MIR.
I hope everybody has a much better summer and 2025.
It's much nicer when computers are used for peacetime activities like our musics.
Thanks for keeping up the tech tips and nice attitudes about our music technooies.
it's a really nice online place here and you guys are cool.
I will try to come back here more often and share tech help if anybody needs it too.
Thanks for being nice people.
May Peace Prevail On Earth In Our Lifetimes As It Does In Heaven
(War is NOT the Answer); MIR.
- KVRAF
- 7012 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Well said! 
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9520 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I tried the lastest standalone Arturia free Analog Lab 'play' version in a very old wine 6.22,
and it worked well. As far as sounds, I would say these categories were strengths:
strings, synths, pads, mallet instruments, e-pianos, synth-brass, a few flutes, and some odd sequences, that can be de-oddified, which was fun. I was able to save a passable Grand Piano preset, as the two that are included need some help, you can compare the settings of my screenshot to the default, if it's a slow weekend
Which brings me to the controls.
Actually, I think it would be easy to craft several nice derivative presets for most of the included 100 sounds. Arturia have chosen some newbie-friendly names to ride on the dials, some that would have other names in commercial synths. There is also some lack of uniformity in what you hear from turning various nobs, but there are not dozens of controls, so finding what enhances each of the presets does not take long, and I had some nice surprises along the way.
I liked about 80 of the hundred sounds as is. If someone made 5 new presets from each of their 'top 40', it would make a nice collection.
This wine version I used is quite old, and the plugin versions crashed
hard
in Reaper while playing. I recall the previous 'play' version plugins worked in a 9.x version of wine. But I'll double-check that later.
EDIT: I installed wine-staging 9.13, and the plugins didn't crash, a lot of updates between 6.22 and 9.13
end EDIT
Cheers
and it worked well. As far as sounds, I would say these categories were strengths:
strings, synths, pads, mallet instruments, e-pianos, synth-brass, a few flutes, and some odd sequences, that can be de-oddified, which was fun. I was able to save a passable Grand Piano preset, as the two that are included need some help, you can compare the settings of my screenshot to the default, if it's a slow weekend
I liked about 80 of the hundred sounds as is. If someone made 5 new presets from each of their 'top 40', it would make a nice collection.
This wine version I used is quite old, and the plugin versions crashed
EDIT: I installed wine-staging 9.13, and the plugins didn't crash, a lot of updates between 6.22 and 9.13
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 3153 posts since 10 Jan, 2005
Can we lose any hope about being able to use XLN Audio Installer - and XLN plugins - in Linux due to recent updates incompatible with Linux? I guess I could find cracked versions of the plugins not using the installer, of course I would like to avoid that.
I'm on the fence of switching completely to Linux and not being able to use XLN stuff - especially RC20, DS-10, XO and Addictive Drums 2, would be sad...
- Mario
I'm on the fence of switching completely to Linux and not being able to use XLN stuff - especially RC20, DS-10, XO and Addictive Drums 2, would be sad...
- Mario
- KVRAF
- 7012 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
There have been many reports of Addictive Drums 2 working well in WINE--so there's that. I am currently evaluating plugins from Musiclab and AmpleSound to determine what may work best in WINE for me. With Linux, one must be willing to search for viable alternatives. I have simply ruled out Native Instruments plugins because Native Access 2 is so problematic for WINE. I really wanted some of the Shreddage instruments. Most of the guitar-based instruments are Kontakt based. Luckily, I have found some alternatives, but it's a research process.mabian wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:40 pm Can we lose any hope about being able to use XLN Audio Installer - and XLN plugins - in Linux due to recent updates incompatible with Linux? I guess I could find cracked versions of the plugins not using the installer, of course I would like to avoid that.
I'm on the fence of switching completely to Linux and not being able to use XLN stuff - especially RC20, DS-10, XO and Addictive Drums 2, would be sad...
- Mario
You mention something that I hadn't considered, but seems ethical enough for me--cracked versions. Hear me out--if someone buys a software package, and then finds that the copy protection prevents the user from making it work on Linux, is it really so wrong at that point to grab and use a cracked version--especially if you have a legitimately purchased copy? I know that those who follow the exact wording of the license agreement would totally disagree. But if one were to consider the "spirit" of the law, things may be seen differently. Copy protection is to prevent piracy. It is to enforce that people legitimately purchase a licensed copy of the program. Well, if one has legitimately purchased a licensed copy of the program, and if one never shares that software with another, then that person is in keeping with the spirit of the law--in my opinion, at least. I don't use any wares or cracks at all, and I have legitimately purchased everything that I own that isn't free or open source--but that doesn't stop me from considering these things when stuck in a position such as this...
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7012 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
BTW, I found some interesting things about the XLN Oneline Installer:mabian wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:40 pm Can we lose any hope about being able to use XLN Audio Installer - and XLN plugins - in Linux due to recent updates incompatible with Linux? I guess I could find cracked versions of the plugins not using the installer, of course I would like to avoid that.
I'm on the fence of switching completely to Linux and not being able to use XLN stuff - especially RC20, DS-10, XO and Addictive Drums 2, would be sad...
- Mario
https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=24079
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... gId=106244
I know of a couple of people on the LinuxMusicians forum that use Addictive Drums quite regularly as well.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)