Well my Strat has a neck, and frets, pickups and tuners... just like the Tele. It's practically like buying it all over again. Plus I replaced the pickguard and just put new strings on my Strat. I told the rep all this, and I told him I refused to buy his overpriced Telecaster. He just said 'OK' and sold it to someone else. What a jerk.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:44 amDid you already own three quarters of the tele that you wanted to buy? And was that the same price for someone who didn't own any part of the tele?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 am I have a Fender Strat that I've played for many years. I also have a Fender bass. So imagine my surprise when the rep told me if I wanted a new Tele, I'd have to pay the same price as someone who doesn't even own a Fender. There's something seriously wrong with that company.
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- KVRAF
- 7657 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 888 posts since 31 May, 2008 from Australia
FixedFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:38 pm Aren't you driving three threads on at least three forums with repeated questions and complaints?
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I think what you are missing is it's an unreasonable comparison, guitars are not software...the world of selling and buying guitars is far from the world of selling software in many ways. Each has it's own traditions, ways and things the people have come to expect. Every company has choices as well, part of this thread seems to be IK does this everytime...so why are people surprised?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:22 amWell my Strat has a neck, and frets, pickups and tuners... just like the Tele. It's practically like buying it all over again. Plus I replaced the pickguard and just put new strings on my Strat. I told the rep all this, and I told him I refused to buy his overpriced Telecaster. He just said 'OK' and sold it to someone else. What a jerk.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:44 amDid you already own three quarters of the tele that you wanted to buy? And was that the same price for someone who didn't own any part of the tele?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 am I have a Fender Strat that I've played for many years. I also have a Fender bass. So imagine my surprise when the rep told me if I wanted a new Tele, I'd have to pay the same price as someone who doesn't even own a Fender. There's something seriously wrong with that company.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
This is literally the first time as an IK user of many years that I've actively awaited a new version of a full product I own, so the lack of proper upgrade versions did come as a surprise to me.
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- Banned
- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Yup. This ^^ Your investment is the guitars will last a lifetime and increase (unless you pull an -old Peter Townsend on them). Your investment in software is money thrown in the wind.Hink wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:44 amI think what you are missing is it's an unreasonable comparison, guitars are not software...the world of selling and buying guitars is far from the world of selling software in many ways. Each has it's own traditions, ways and things the people have come to expect. Every company has choices as well, part of this thread seems to be IK does this everytime...so why are people surprised?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:22 amWell my Strat has a neck, and frets, pickups and tuners... just like the Tele. It's practically like buying it all over again. Plus I replaced the pickguard and just put new strings on my Strat. I told the rep all this, and I told him I refused to buy his overpriced Telecaster. He just said 'OK' and sold it to someone else. What a jerk.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:44 amDid you already own three quarters of the tele that you wanted to buy? And was that the same price for someone who didn't own any part of the tele?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 am I have a Fender Strat that I've played for many years. I also have a Fender bass. So imagine my surprise when the rep told me if I wanted a new Tele, I'd have to pay the same price as someone who doesn't even own a Fender. There's something seriously wrong with that company.
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
I think it all really comes down to how much of AT 4 you own. The guys that just bought AT 4 Max 3 weeks ago got shafted the worst IMO. Very crappy low blow move by IKM. You screwed your customers. You should given them a grace upgrade or something to show good faith.revvy wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:22 am This is literally the first time as an IK user of many years that I've actively awaited a new version of a full product I own, so the lack of proper upgrade versions did come as a surprise to me.
Gear & Setup: Windows 10, Dual Xeon, 32GB RAM, Cubase 10.5/9.5, NI Komplete Audio 6, NI Maschine, NI Jam, NI Kontakt
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
I bought V4 MAX based on what it offered, with zero expectationtelecode wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 4:41 am I think it all really comes down to how much of AT 4 you own. The guys that just bought AT 4 Max 3 weeks ago got shafted the worst IMO. Very crappy low blow move by IKM. You screwed your customers. You should given them a grace upgrade or something to show good faith.
of a V5 in the future, or even of IK keeping the business alive.
I still have much of MAX4 to explore , and no disappointments soundwise, so 2021 will likely be a CS V5, as I've no time for the modern collections in MAX 5, and need computer upgrades more than a taller stack of idle software. In that vein, I'll also pass up on the
koming komplete kollapse sales for the same reason.
Cheers
(but I maintain a weighty 'change-jar', for the no-brainer sales
from plugin boutique, and small-shop devs.
The coin counter machine at the bank has my DNA
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- KVRian
- 1478 posts since 2 Mar, 2005
I agree. I got MAX4 as well and there is so much there. I only play small guitar parts here and there so I don't need the absolute best thing. Not to mention no one knows how demanding A5 is going to be. No offense to IK (and really this goes for all developers), I'm not gonna keep upgrading my software, then have to upgrade my whole computer every 3 or 4 years for this minute difference in sound that eats my computer processing power for lunch with 1 track just because its the new best thing. When I started making music in 1998 I had WAY less than what I do now. And it was like that for about 6 years until I got my 1st computer. Yes, tech has come a long way, but at some point I have to use it and not just keep buying stuff.glokraw wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:34 pm I bought V4 MAX based on what it offered, with zero expectation
of a V5 in the future, or even of IK keeping the business alive.
I still have much of MAX4 to explore , and no disappointments soundwise, so 2021 will likely be a CS V5, as I've no time for the modern collections in MAX 5, and need computer upgrades more than a taller stack of idle software. In that vein, I'll also pass up on the
koming komplete kollapse sales for the same reason.
Cheers
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- KVRAF
- 7657 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Wait... so a KVR moderator is disparaging IK Multimedia’s reputation in the public forum?Hink wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:44 amI think what you are missing is it's an unreasonable comparison, guitars are not software...the world of selling and buying guitars is far from the world of selling software in many ways. Each has it's own traditions, ways and things the people have come to expect. Every company has choices as well, part of this thread seems to be IK does this everytime...so why are people surprised?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:22 amWell my Strat has a neck, and frets, pickups and tuners... just like the Tele. It's practically like buying it all over again. Plus I replaced the pickguard and just put new strings on my Strat. I told the rep all this, and I told him I refused to buy his overpriced Telecaster. He just said 'OK' and sold it to someone else. What a jerk.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:44 amDid you already own three quarters of the tele that you wanted to buy? And was that the same price for someone who didn't own any part of the tele?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 am I have a Fender Strat that I've played for many years. I also have a Fender bass. So imagine my surprise when the rep told me if I wanted a new Tele, I'd have to pay the same price as someone who doesn't even own a Fender. There's something seriously wrong with that company.
Is it the official position of KVR management that IK Multimedia is a disreputable company now?
I believe clarification is in order.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- addled muppet weed
- 111242 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
pretty sure mods are allowed personal opinions.
they are generally customers like the rest of us i assume?
they are generally customers like the rest of us i assume?
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 8142 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Hi, the introductory pricing is good through the end of the year. We will have more videos coming and I see one is slated to cover the new gear including the amps.tappert wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:43 pm Hi Peter,
Do you know when the intro price will stop working?
Will IK release new videos to get an idea of the new amps?
Thanks
However, I just opened another video and now that I have read your post I wish it was the one with the amps but alas it is not (yet). This one covered AmpliTube 5 In-Depth: GUI - Chain, Gear Selector, Gear View and is hopefully interesting to some nonetheless:
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
It's like watching a meth-hed playing the slots in a casino
Or like the first or last lap of a NASCAR race. Lots of drag-n-drop
in those cultures, too
But I think the software will survive the videos.
May IK live long and prosper
Or like the first or last lap of a NASCAR race. Lots of drag-n-drop
in those cultures, too
But I think the software will survive the videos.
May IK live long and prosper
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
no I was clearing up what you were misunderstanding...dont be putting words in my mouth, the only time I mentioned IK was to state the complaint seems to be...do you get that S E E M S T O B E...so kindly keep your words out of my mouthjamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:20 pmWait... so a KVR moderator is disparaging IK Multimedia’s reputation in the public forum?Hink wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:44 amI think what you are missing is it's an unreasonable comparison, guitars are not software...the world of selling and buying guitars is far from the world of selling software in many ways. Each has it's own traditions, ways and things the people have come to expect. Every company has choices as well, part of this thread seems to be IK does this everytime...so why are people surprised?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:22 amWell my Strat has a neck, and frets, pickups and tuners... just like the Tele. It's practically like buying it all over again. Plus I replaced the pickguard and just put new strings on my Strat. I told the rep all this, and I told him I refused to buy his overpriced Telecaster. He just said 'OK' and sold it to someone else. What a jerk.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:44 amDid you already own three quarters of the tele that you wanted to buy? And was that the same price for someone who didn't own any part of the tele?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 am I have a Fender Strat that I've played for many years. I also have a Fender bass. So imagine my surprise when the rep told me if I wanted a new Tele, I'd have to pay the same price as someone who doesn't even own a Fender. There's something seriously wrong with that company.
Is it the official position of KVR management that IK Multimedia is a disreputable company now?
I believe clarification is in order.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 7657 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Alright. It wasn't clear to me if you were stating your own opinion or summarizing someone else's. Thank you for the clarification.Hink wrote: Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:44 amno I was clearing up what you were misunderstanding...dont be putting words in my mouth, the only time I mentioned IK was to state the complaint seems to be...do you get that S E E M S T O B E...so kindly keep your words out of my mouthjamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:20 pmWait... so a KVR moderator is disparaging IK Multimedia’s reputation in the public forum?Hink wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:44 amI think what you are missing is it's an unreasonable comparison, guitars are not software...the world of selling and buying guitars is far from the world of selling software in many ways. Each has it's own traditions, ways and things the people have come to expect. Every company has choices as well, part of this thread seems to be IK does this everytime...so why are people surprised?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:22 amWell my Strat has a neck, and frets, pickups and tuners... just like the Tele. It's practically like buying it all over again. Plus I replaced the pickguard and just put new strings on my Strat. I told the rep all this, and I told him I refused to buy his overpriced Telecaster. He just said 'OK' and sold it to someone else. What a jerk.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:44 amDid you already own three quarters of the tele that you wanted to buy? And was that the same price for someone who didn't own any part of the tele?jamcat wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:17 am I have a Fender Strat that I've played for many years. I also have a Fender bass. So imagine my surprise when the rep told me if I wanted a new Tele, I'd have to pay the same price as someone who doesn't even own a Fender. There's something seriously wrong with that company.
Is it the official position of KVR management that IK Multimedia is a disreputable company now?
I believe clarification is in order.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
