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[Insanelysane]

Three months to Black Friday.
Making a list and checking it twice.

Good point, I am going to start saving for it!

And for those who are newer to the Black Friday and Xmas sales - definitely double your expected budget. This is because bargains somehow keep popping up, sometimes steals you simply feel you cant refuse. You may very well feel your now seemingly meager and carefully selected list didnt account for all this shiny gold thats available.

[chk071]

Edit: I found a disclaimer on the discoDSP page which shed some light on things: "OB-Xd Desktop is free for non-commercial use. Buying a license removes this restriction."

...which is nonsense. There is no restriction on commercial use in the GPLv3 license under which OB-Xd is released:

https://github.com/reales/OB-Xd/blob/master/license.txt

obxd_gplv3.jpg

People have pointed this out to George several times, to no avail.

I didn't know that. Well, that sucks indeed. Figures that I didn't even install it on my new machine.

You know, what's right is right, and fair money for work. But, maybe it's time he stops relying on other people's work to do a living.

[ATS]

Edit: I found a disclaimer on the discoDSP page which shed some light on things: "OB-Xd Desktop is free for non-commercial use. Buying a license removes this restriction."

...which is nonsense. There is no restriction on commercial use in the GPLv3 license under which OB-Xd is released:

https://github.com/reales/OB-Xd/blob/master/license.txt

obxd_gplv3.jpg

People have pointed this out to George several times, to no avail.

I didn't know that. Well, that sucks indeed. Figures that I didn't even install it on my new machine.

You know, what's right is right, and fair money for work. But, maybe it's time he stops relying on other people's work to do a living.

so he relied on other people's work for all his synths?

[Ceej]

Edit: I found a disclaimer on the discoDSP page which shed some light on things: "OB-Xd Desktop is free for non-commercial use. Buying a license removes this restriction."

...which is nonsense. There is no restriction on commercial use in the GPLv3 license under which OB-Xd is released:

That's why it's OK (legally speaking) for discoDSP to sell it. The GPL doesn't prevent someone from building and packaging GPL source code and selling that as a product with whatever terms they want; that's exactly the kind of "commercial use" that is allowed. It only requires that the customer be made aware that the product's source code is GPL and be given access to that source code.

I'm not necessarily saying it's morally OK to just resell stuff you didn't write. But at least from the blurb on discoDSP's site and what I've read on KVR, it seems like this was done in conjunction with the original author, and discoDSP is doing a lot of development and support work, so it doesn't feel like anyone's being cheated here...

[cthonophonic]

Edit: I found a disclaimer on the discoDSP page which shed some light on things: "OB-Xd Desktop is free for non-commercial use. Buying a license removes this restriction."

...which is nonsense. There is no restriction on commercial use in the GPLv3 license under which OB-Xd is released:

That's why it's OK (legally speaking) for discoDSP to sell it. The GPL doesn't prevent someone from building and packaging GPL source code and selling that as a product with whatever terms they want; that's exactly the kind of "commercial use" that is allowed. It only requires that the customer be made aware that the product's source code is GPL and be given access to that source code.

I'm not necessarily saying it's morally OK to just resell stuff you didn't write. But at least from the blurb on discoDSP's site and what I've read on KVR, it seems like this was done in conjunction with the original author, and discoDSP is doing a lot of development and support work, so it doesn't feel like anyone's being cheated here...

Fair enough. I guess I overreached in calling it nonsense, since it's not legally incorrect to say that the *binaries compiled by discoDSP* have a non-commercial use restriction. And you're right, George has put in plenty of work to keep OB-Xd up to date. However, since anyone with a Juce license could compile and distribute an identical plugin without the restriction, it seems like calling the payment a "donation to keep the project going" would be a more honest framing than saying that you're paying to use the software commercially. It's George's right to call it whatever he wants, though.

The discoDSP page for OB-Xd has always seemed a little deceptive to me, though there is now a highlight box around the "free for non-commercial use" section, which I guess is a step up from it being small text at the bottom. OB-Xd being "on sale" through third-party retailers like ADSR just seems like a cash grab, and that's what started this conversation.

I should say that I generally like discoDSP's stuff and bought the whole bundle some years back. But I also share the frustrations that others have expressed about the lack of significant updates and the confusing flurry of changes to upgrade policies a few years ago, which just felt like flailing about for cash without any added value for users. We're now rather far afield from discussion of deals however, and it seems petty to continue, so I'll leave it there.

[Yadrichik_Chaya]

Expose 2 by Mastering the Mix is free using the code HYPERBITZ at checkout

https://www.masteringthemix.com/products/expose-2

Wow! Many many thanks!!

[markrs]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

[aMUSEd]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

They sent me my license key by email

Thanks for posting this bargain

[Kurdish Mayfield]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

They sent me my license key by email

Thanks for posting this bargain

same here..no account, checked out with paypal but it was free. Thanks for posting this

[autodafe]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

maybe I am just being blind but I can't see any option to add a Coupon Code on the Checkout page....

[GaryG]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

They sent me my license key by email

Thanks for posting this bargain

Me too, I got sent the license by email and when I later created an account (with the same email), the product and license were available.

[VincentVega]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

maybe I am just being blind but I can't see any option to add a Coupon Code on the Checkout page....

Same here, checked again and again... but no coupon box

[traz]

maybe it is your web browser. Opera will do that to me unless I disable adblocker, etc. then everything is fine. just saying

[simmo75]

Just in case anyone had this issue. You need an account with Mastering The Mix to see the license, rather than getting an email with it on. If you have already got it free, set one up with the email you used to buy from them. The serial will show up under your products.

maybe I am just being blind but I can't see any option to add a Coupon Code on the Checkout page....

Same, nothing in 3 different browsers. Maybe it's been ended

[ssl4000]

the spam in the main bargain thread is unreal like entering there equals 50% chance of seeing one of the two black avatar guys spamming their soundsets, whatever