Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Lunch Money]

A lock of sorts could easily be invented that's independent of the cable itself. Plug a standard USB cable in, and a mini-"cage" of sorts clicks into place around the cable, securing it in place. StompIO 2, then.

Greg

[metrosechual]

wow, squids, you win the award for most ridiculous reasoning ever!

[Lunch Money]

When the diagram says "pedals/switches" it implies on/off. Those are definitely for expression pedals, then? That's pretty cool. Up to 6 expression pedals is a good thing, especially if they make the "Whammy" emulator usable.

[Squids]

wow, squids, you win the award for most ridiculous reasoning ever!

There's an award for that?

So, how is my reasoning ridiculous? In what regard specifically?


By the way, I am surprised a mod here has not asked you not to be mentioning cracks in your sig.

Syracuse eh? Go Orangemen! I went to SU. Freakin' COLD there! Give my regards to M street.

[Squids]

When the diagram says "pedals/switches" it implies on/off. Those are definitely for expression pedals, then? That's pretty cool. Up to 6 expression pedals is a good thing, especially if they make the "Whammy" emulator usable.

YES! That's what I've been saying. It's extremely cool! As a multi-instrumentalist I LOVE expression pedals personally and not since the days of the rare RMI Keyboard Computer have I seen something have the possibility to have 6 expression pedals.

You have I believe 10 switch pedals on the unit itself. Then you can hook up an additional 6 expression OR switch pedals on the back.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Then you can hook up an additional 6 expression OR switch pedals on the back.

My question is does anything have both? Is there an expression pedal with a switch underneath the toe like in a real wah-wah pedal? Otherwise the wah would be extremely difficult to turn on or off properly mid song [no playing Voodoo Child (Slight Return) or White Room].

[redshift factor]

Am I correct to assume you could use one pedal to control multiple effects, like both Wah and pan, or Wah and volume, or all three together?

[Lunch Money]

I've never liked "toe-down" switches. My Moreley had a separate switch. It's a much better idea. If you dial in a "cocked wah" sound that's working for you and the song, when you toe-down it throws it off. I'd rather on/off with a separate switch, tbh.

[redshift factor]

Everything about the Stomp IO is meant to be no compromise in quality and features while still maintaining great value for the money. Don't let the fact that it doesn't have a hardware pedal included fool you. The kind of hardware pedals that are often included with controllers are not always the ones that guitarists like so this unit let's you choose which one you like (although I think there will be some from IK as optional accessories). Anyway, some controllers have one, maybe 2 control pedals of average quality built in. Stomp IO allows you to connect SIX (seriously, that's a lot) pedals of your choice to it. That's more powerful than any USB hardware foot controller offers that I am aware of.

I think its a good idea to allow the user to connect the pedal of their choice, it also lets them place the pedal where they want. However, I understand Stomp IO is going to be fairly pricey. I think for what you're going to be paying, IK should throw in an accessory pedal for free, even if it is only of average quality, just to get you started. It just doesn't seem right that there would be hidden costs just to be able to use all of the standard built in features. I thought it was supposed to be a complete solution right out of the box. If you can't play the Wah effects live when you first bring it home, then its really not.

I am glad to have a model of it as I am of my CE-1, Fuzzface and MXR pedals that IK modeled in AT2.

I could have sworn early AT2 screenshots showed a Phase 90, too. Am I mistaken? It was a long time ago.

I'm glad there will be a new Wah, too. The current one is only 'OK'. A lot better than Guitar Rig, but still, that isn't saying much. I find the range and the peak of the AT2 wah to leave something to be desired. But I do ITB post, primarily, so I'm not convinced that I should need a live hardware controller. I still would certainly like the full selection of software models though, with or without the hardware. I sincerely hope that if I got Stomp IO, I won't have to lug the controller around to mixing sessions just to be able to access the AT2 software in my DAW. But I really hope IK doesn't leave the standard, software only version of AT2 hanging. That would be sorta uncool.

The other pedal that needs to be addressed is the flanger. Got a classic MXR M-117 Flanger that IK can model, or even a Boss BF-2? The AT2 flanger needs a delay time knob, like the "manual" knob on the MXR and Boss. You can't get hard zippy metallic sounds out of the AT2 flanger like you can from those pedals, only airy comb filtered washy sounds that aren't so good.

I wonder if what I've said is missed (could be with a thread this large) or if someone is just coming from a POV that is just against it for whatever their reason.

I'm not coming from a POV that is against Stomp IO/AT2. I'm really quite for both. But I am coming to the discussion late, and I haven't gone back and read all 300+ pages. Sorry if I'm bringing up stuff already addressed. Also, I don't mean to bust your balls, sorry if it comes across that way. Just trying to fill in some of the blanks.

[Squids]

Yeah, I agree there too for the most part. You can easily mess up on the expressive pedals that have switches at the top (or bottom). But, on the other hand, it'd be nice to have that option for people that do like it! I wonder about that one. Not sure if that exists but maybe someone can make one to work.

I have another pic I can show you. I got permission this time. (the other one I took a little chance but with NAMM around the corner... come on! Right? I know most of you guys can't go so I try to bring a little of the excitement to KVR... at least from things I am close to... but you know I have to be careful what I say. I push the envelope when I can though!).

So, I also asked if it was okay that I mentioned the new wah that comes with Stomp IO. I should add that there also some KILLER fuzz boxes too. YAY! Not just the Fuzzface which is cool but there are some other "fuzzier" fuzz boxes too. I can't say which just yet but when I do I think you will be as pysched as I am (some of you will be). Anyway, I will drop a hint of what's in there, here and there. The WAH I was talking about is a model of the classic VOX wah!!!!!! Yeah baby. That's THE ONE! I totally agree that the wah in AT2 is just "okay". It's your typical wah and while it is better than most other software wahs out there... so? It isn't the VOX wah. Therefore this is one thing I am personally thrilled about. For my tastes I don't really like any other hardware wah better than my personal Vox Wah. It's just liquid and tonally diverse and pleasing to the ear. To have it modeled is a dream (because they are hard to replace if anything ever happened to mine).

So, the current wah in AT2 is adequate but my favorite pedals in AT2 are the models of the Memory Man, CE-1, MXR phase 100 and Dynacomp, Fuzzface... well, the vintage pedals! haha. Naturally. I agree the flanger is good but I can imagine some great models of various flangers. I AM borrowing Mike Rutherford's MXR Flanger (that was used on Follow You, Follow Me... also the same flanger model that Eddie Van Halen used I believe and many others). Of course I will send it over to Italy to be modeled but when/if that will be available I couldn't say. I just have my "Wish List" and then back it up by sending the actual unit over there if I have it. I mean, it's fun! It's not "my job" to do that or anything, I just want to see these things exist just like you! As you know, in hardware these vintage pedals and amps are getting QUITE expensive!!! So, while Sonic Reality's motto is "Sample Everything", you could almost say IK's is becoming "Model Everything" haha. At least when it comes to guitar gear. Many people find IK's models to be the most accurate and I know first-hand that part of this is because there's pride in the work to accurately emulate and not just go for the quick "marketing- close enough for rock n' roll" approach that some take. I, for one, really appreciate that... even though it takes a lot longer as a result unfortunately. That's reality. But, in the end of you have a great quality of sound preserved in software (not to mention controlled by hardware like the Stomp IO) then it is worth waiting for.

Alright, I will post some more pics in a bit. I have one with a bunch of pedals hooked up that you might like to see.

Oh, sorry, one more thing responding to the question about including a cheap pedal in the box for the price. I believe the price will be announced at the show and while it isn't cheap it is also still great value as usual. Remember that the full version will come with the software which is a special version of AmpliTube 2 (that you already know has some more stuff in it and more functionaliry as it's been hinted). It has high quality AD/DA and even Class A input stages, rugged chassis, two displays and the integration of hardware control and software is deluxe (how much is a Digi 002 for example? This will be less than that at least.) I believe there will be a discounted upgrade for AT2 users to get it for less (even though they will be getting an updated custom AT2 to use with the Stomp IO). All of this will be worth the price even without the inclusion of a cheap expression pedal. Also, that would be sending the wrong message (npi). Of course it WOULD be nice, but I don't know if there will be one or not. I am guessing no. But, like I said, I think there will be IK branded accessories that are considered to be on par with the quality of the product. But, optional is the key word here.

Again, I'd rather have my money paid on things you CAN'T add as an accessory so easily like Class A input stages. Imagine if you had to trade that for a pedal for it to stay in the same price point? I think this was a good decision even if I understand the appeal of having a pedals included right out of the box. Again, this was made to build a top quality hardware/software guitar processing system integrated with your recording or live set up. It's not meant to be a budget product for the masses (that'd be StealthPlug and things like that).

[redshift factor]

Big Muff! Big Muff!

Hey, thanks a lot for the reply. Informative as always. Though you left my question unanswered about whether you need to have the foot controller plugged in to use the software in a mixing session (my apologies if its already been addressed before.) Line6 GearBox is like that, though their TonePort isn't nearly as cumbersome as the IK beast will be. I have a portable DAW that I use for offsite mixing, and I would hate to have to lug around a foot controller to a post session where I'm not doing any actual tracking.

Regarding your "wish list", well what can I say. You're very lucky having a direct line to IK. You're like the Pope I guess. I'm glad that you know pedals as well as you do, and have impeccable taste when it comes to choosing them. I was hoping the new Wah was the Vox!

[Squids]

The Pope of Greenwich Village maybe. Paulie they took my thumb!!!!! Haha. No, I ain't no Pope (that was fun to say) but I did consider doing a drum library called "The Bishop of Drums". Just something about that amuses. Not seriously though.

I am into stomp pedals and have been for a while but more from a production standpoint because the secret to getting some of the sounds of classic bands like Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Stones, Hendrix, Who etc. is the gear they used and very often down to specific vintage pedals. Well, people have caught on to this so that's why things like Univibes sell for $1,200 and Fuzzfaces for close $500, for the originals... which usually sound different than the remakes in most cases.

[redshift factor]

Alright, and the verdict on whether or not the Stomp IO hardware will be required to use the special version of AT2 that comes with it is...?

[Muzik 4 Machines]

It's not that I don't think a USB cable lock wouldn't be cool. It doesn't exist as a computer part that I am aware of so it would have to be invented. In fact, it's even a very good idea!

neutrik makes those
http://www.canford.co.uk/commerce/produ ... Id=2002504
edit: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/01/2 ... udio-jack/
but i cannot find the B version nor the male, but it must be possible to find

[Squids]

Alright, and the verdict on whether or not the Stomp IO hardware will be required to use the special version of AT2 that comes with it is...?

Oh I'm sorry! I kept getting distracted by last minute NAMM prep. No I don't think the Stomp IO is required to run the plug-in version that comes with it. The Stand Alone version I am not sure. It might need the Stomp IO to access it's functions... on the otherhand, perhaps not a NEED thing but more of a WANT thing.

I am not 100% on this part though but I am say in the 90% sure area on this. You know that my info is unofficial and I barely have actual clearance to say these things but I am one of the few people who could get away with spilling any of these beans which is why you don't see anyone else saying a word at most companies. No one wants to take the risk saying the wrong thing but after years at it I know the limits at least with IK and of course with SR I can say whatever I want since I answer to myself... but even I have learned to keep SOME secrets... and we have some good ones for NAMM at SR as well. But, IK's secret is going to be a fun one to hear about at around 4:30 on Thursday.