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olikana wrote:an analog eq requires 0dff. there no ifs and buts. it's all bout filters after all.
that's why software eqs suck balls (compared to analog eqs). been saying it for ages...
needs to be done at some point.
+1
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool

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self deleted to stop the derail.
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I'm sorry, I didn't have any intention to start it. Just saw couple'o reapers and that's it. But DAW war is like Spanish Inquisition -- nobody expect it. :cry:

Btw, 'spanish inquisition' is a good name for distortion and decimation plugin, if u-he have an intention to make one.
Murderous duck!

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olikana wrote:an analog eq requires 0dff. there no ifs and buts. it's all bout filters after all.
that's why software eqs suck balls (compared to analog eqs). been saying it for ages...
don't know how feasible cpu wise is a bunch of filters running in 0dff and on different channles ...but needs to be done at some point.
We've been working on a so-called "Multi Scene Filter" for Zebra3 which is a superset of equalisers, resonators, filterbanks and modal synthesis bodies. Our testcase renders 2000+ filters on a single core, and they're all 0df. They do however cover the linear case only. Which - for that application - is well enough, as well as for transparent equalisers.

My hope is that we can use this technology and put it into Filterscape and Uhbik at some point.

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Urs wrote:
olikana wrote:an analog eq requires 0dff. there no ifs and buts. it's all bout filters after all.
that's why software eqs suck balls (compared to analog eqs). been saying it for ages...
don't know how feasible cpu wise is a bunch of filters running in 0dff and on different channles ...but needs to be done at some point.
We've been working on a so-called "Multi Scene Filter" for Zebra3 which is a superset of equalisers, resonators, filterbanks and modal synthesis bodies. Our testcase renders 2000+ filters on a single core, and they're all 0df. They do however cover the linear case only. Which - for that application - is well enough, as well as for transparent equalisers.

My hope is that we can use this technology and put it into Filterscape and Uhbik at some point.
:o :shock: :love:

"The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades." 8)

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bftucker wrote:On a less serious note (not that I am biased)
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But I am biased! Noice one!!! Thank you!!! :D 8)

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ThomasHelzle wrote:And a big thanks to Urs and the team for having me :-)

These were 7 days to remember for sure! 8)

Cheers,

Tom
It was really cool that you've been with us! :)

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Fritze wrote:
bftucker wrote:On a less serious note (not that I am biased)
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But I am biased! Noice one!!! Thank you!!! :D 8)
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A final wrap up (Saturday & Sunday) in pictures:

Claes showing me the modular synth in Bitwig
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Coffee with Jim Heintz and Andreas Schneider
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Single Malt with Stephan M. Bernsee at Zynaptiq
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Time to take things apart...
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... and stuff it into the van
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Last chance to check mails
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It was a great week 8)

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Does modular synth in Bitwig do 0dff? :P

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I really hope U-He synths will get per-note automation support in BitWig Studio by the way! :)
It would still be cool to have VST3 VST expression (or however it is called) support, but that seems to be hard to impement.
Claes mentioned in another video that the BitWig Studio per-note automation is based on simple sysex messages and should be easier to implement iirc :)

Cheers
Dennis

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Yeah, he showed me the per note automation and it's very well implemented it seems.
ATM they have the VST 2.x support mostly working and think about VST3 exactly for this kind of stuff. It seems they had per not automation before VST3 was even available...

I personally was very impressed by Bitwig actually.
Looks like Ableton Live 15... ;-)

Cheers,

Tom
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EvilDragon wrote:Does modular synth in Bitwig do 0dff? :P
Yep

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Just in from Chris Hein:


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djanthonyw wrote:Null tests don't lie.
chilly7 wrote:p.s.
But i agree, it is a Uhe MusikMesse thread so no offtopic anymore. If sombody want to continue this dessusion they can creat a thread in a propiat forum location. :)
Good call, something we can all agree on. Lets move on.

Still really looking forward to Satin and the Diva update.
me too :)

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