Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[ATS]

Maybe Voxengo Premium Membership will become your new best friend.

Premium Membership allows you to obtain software product licenses for any (or all) Voxengo plugins of your choice, without any additional fee. Premium Membership has no expiration period and has no hidden, monthly or yearly recurring payments. Premium Membership costs a flat one-time fee and lasts indefinitely, it is a "bundle" software product license fee.

https://www.voxengo.com/product/premium

I am quite happy I went the Voxengo route to cover my bases two years ago. Voxengo gives me many tools, but not everything.

I am wondering which Waves plugins are irreplaceable for the people who have them. Any opinions?

Was more thinking in general and what other companies have to offer. With that said, you can get pretty far with Voxengo only. The whole hardware emulations etc. aside, but we also having enough companies doing exactly that.

Just my 2 cents.

Voxengo route is insanely cheap and I think they guy is losing a lot of money not making it a sub. you only have to pay once and you get everything forever including updates.

[WatchTheGuitar]

Waves... and then goodbye...

[maldomusica]

Welp, it looks like Waves has gone over to an all subscription plan for their products. I'm sad to see this...

Im not subscribing to anything , ever.

Yeah, I hate subs... And I disliked the old Waves license policy too. Not buying any more from they

[Uncle E]

I can imagine treating it like hiring a mix engineer. Write an album, subscribe for a month to let their AI mix it for you, and then unsubscribe when the album is done.

[VitaminD]

I hope this flops and Waves regrets their poor consumer decision in time. But I doubt it will happen.

Even the free StudioRack is now subscription only. I'm not willing to use it anymore considering it is essentially no longer developed or supported (outside of a stupid subscription). It was one of a kind really. Bluecat is the closest competitor but it's not the same. Too bad.

I stopped using IKM plugins because of the gimmickyness and hassle with the old registration system. Now Waves is out.

Time to be more selective with what companies I allow to enter into my life. Because as silly as that sounds that is what you're doing when you weave their products into your workflow.

[WatchTheGuitar]

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[KIMCHRISTOPHER]

Wonder what the best venues are for complaints. There's sales support:

https://www.waves.com/contact-sales

And the forum on the Waves website---IDK if they even check that....

Tweeter. let's upload a #NoWavesPlugins until your users hear

[Hewitt Huntwork]

I know it sucks, but I'd like to see how they address their customer base before declaring them dead and boycotting all their signature endorsers.

[Spin Boyz]

Wow Waves... wow

[WatchTheGuitar]

Question I have is does this (in the email to customers from Waves)...

What about plugin updates?

Waves Creative Access keeps all your plugins updated, always. You will get all updates for the plugins in your subscription, at no extra cost: no need for the Waves Update Plan. However, If you still have a valid Waves Update Plan, you will continue to enjoy all its benefits until it expires.

...mean you can get a month of the ultimate subscription and update all your standalone plugins or if you do that do they all get updated to "subscription only" plugins? Or do the standalone ones never get updated when your current WUP period ends?

[fsoares]

Going subscription is really terrible for countries like Brazil and others in Latin America where our currency is very devalued.
But I don't think anyone cares.
Probably piracy will fill this blank...
For richer countries subscription are not so bad.
But to be honest, Waves have a lot of plugins, but most of them are ok but not really necessary.

[KIMCHRISTOPHER]

Going subscription is really terrible for countries like Brazil and others in Latin America where our currency is very devalued.
But I don't think anyone cares.
Probably piracy will fill this blank...
For richer countries subscription are not so bad.
But to be honest, Waves have a lot of plugins, but most of them are ok but not really necessary.

exactly. I'm also from Brazil and a $24 subscription is absolutely ridiculous. The point is that regardless of that, we have disrespect for customers who already have their plugins for years. Not being able to update them without signing up? Or a new customer to acquire some plugins they need, without also having to pay for it monthly? Waves is heading towards ostracism

[Uncle E]

Wow Waves... wow

[maldomusica]

Going subscription is really terrible for countries like Brazil and others in Latin America where our currency is very devalued.

exactly. I'm also from Brazil and a $24 subscription is absolutely ridiculous. The point is that regardless of that, we have disrespect for customers who already have their plugins for years.

I'm from Argentina. We are worse than Brazil and increasingly low in the economy. This of the plugins sub doesn't help.

[Spin Boyz]

Going 100% subs is a "d" move by Waves.