Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[beergeek]

A3ntar....did you pm the Squidsmeister?

Squidsy forgets shit while working on Genesis projects, wouldn't you?

[G&L_player]

Ok...I'm with hibidy...this thing just plain f'in rocks. The feedback is even perfectly random...good gawd...I feel like I'm back on stage again

Yeah, I really liked that too...but you know, it's really the interaction between the wah, the 'vibe, and the fuzz. The amp model itself is pretty dead (just go direct into it...AT1 all over again).

You can get pretty much the same type 'vibe going using freeware:



Try running this stuff into your favorite amp sim:

Coyote Wah

UniVibe - from the SimulAnalog Guitar Suite

Buz Fuzz - I think it is in the OLD buzzroom VST Plugins Pack

The mixer adds more clean signal which makes the 'vibe's sweep more subtle, and suprisingly makes it sound more eccentric like the one in JHE. I have been told this is probably "due to the phase distortion between the wet and the dry signal. It would introduce phase cancellations very much depending on the filters frequencies, order and number involved".

A very intelligent and resourceful post, indeed! Hendrix actually combined products from an array of manufacturers, not just one. Thanks, for the thoughtful (i.e. diagrams) post, man!

[redshift factor]

Except for the simple overlooked fact that Coyote Wah sounds nothing like a real wah pedal, and SimulAnalog is for the most part highly over-rated (though still a good deal for the price). These kind of "designer imposter" solutions always fall flat. It reminds me of the people who buy these cheap chinese knock off mics for $100 and swear it's just like using the real $4000 thing. Not. And an Epiphone ain't just like a real Gibson, either. I hate to break it to you, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for. There is no "90% there". Don't fool yourself. It's either there or it isn't. It's either "THE sound", or it's not. AmpliTube 2 nails it, the others don't.

[multree]

Pssss....Squids, where is my copy man?

don't worry mate... he will sort you out... he's just busy sometimes

[guitarzan]

Except for the simple overlooked fact that Coyote Wah sounds nothing like a real wah pedal, and SimulAnalog is for the most part highly over-rated (though still a good deal for the price). These kind of "designer imposter" solutions always fall flat. It reminds me of the people who buy these cheap chinese knock off mics for $100 and swear it's just like using the real $4000 thing. Not. And an Epiphone ain't just like a real Gibson, either. I hate to break it to you, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for. There is no "90% there". Don't fool yourself. It's either there or it isn't. It's either "THE sound", or it's not. AmpliTube 2 nails it, the others don't.

Well, I guess if you have some kind of complex where you need to sound exactly like Hendrix then experimentation is out of the question...of course AT2 JHE is NOT the real deal either. Fairly close/no cigar. It has similar behavior, but the freeware stuff is funkier and has a better vibe. And you can do better than the IK amp sims almost anywhere else you turn. There are also several other free VST wahs you could try if you weren't so afraid of sounding original.

Yeah, right, the amount of money spent is everything in music, NOT...money spent has NOTHING to do with groove or vibe or rock-n-roll. Different is good, there was already a Jimi Hendrix...learn from him.

[Vervil]

Except for the simple overlooked fact that Coyote Wah sounds nothing like a real wah pedal, and SimulAnalog is for the most part highly over-rated (though still a good deal for the price). These kind of "designer imposter" solutions always fall flat. It reminds me of the people who buy these cheap chinese knock off mics for $100 and swear it's just like using the real $4000 thing. Not. And an Epiphone ain't just like a real Gibson, either. I hate to break it to you, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for. There is no "90% there". Don't fool yourself. It's either there or it isn't. It's either "THE sound", or it's not. AmpliTube 2 nails it, the others don't.

It reminds me of people that get married or look for a girlfriend to get laid. That is simply solution that falls flat. Girlfriends are simply over-rated. Street hooker is not the same thing as 1000$ hooker and you can only imagine how good she is compared to your girlfriend. I hate to break it to you but sometimes you really do get what you pay for. Don't fool yourself that simply finding "cheap" girlfriend that gives you some "action" just for paid diner and for going to movies can replace woman that costs so much and is specially made and trained to fulfill all your dreams.
This is why I personally endorse Jenna Jameson Ampliboobies Edition II gtlx turbo injection, (and it is worth every dollar believe me), instead of using worthless freebies!

[redshift factor]

guitarzan, I'm not talking about sounding like Jimi Hendrix. I'm talking about sounding like you're using a real wah pedal, first and foremost, not to mention a real amp, an actual Univibe, etc.

[monsterbeetle]

Redshift,
there is alot of true wahs in stores that suck a lot more than coyote's, which does not suck by the way, and why should always a real amp sound better than an emulated one?

I for instance tend to prefer emulated amps to real amps once recorded.

Anyway with good mixing skills you can make simulanalog stuff sound huge, you can do pro-grade stuff with freeware.

Amplitube does not nail it at all, to my ears at least.

[guitarzan]

guitarzan, I'm not talking about sounding like Jimi Hendrix. I'm talking about sounding like you're using a real wah pedal, first and foremost, not to mention a real amp, an actual Univibe, etc.

I went through a search for the holy wah phase (several years) and I still have 8-9 wah pedals (Dallas Arbiter w/Fasel, Thomas Organ w/ stack of dimes and two fuzz wahs, Teese Picture wah etc).

When taken in isolation, there are distict almost magic qualities to some of these vintage pedals - but when used in conjuction with a fuzz and amp distortion you can't tell which little peice of dirt comes from where, so the wah is then reduced to it's basic qualities: it is either a bandpass filter or an overcoupled lowpass filter that exhibits a resonant peak just at its lowpass rolloff frequency and the resonant peak is adjusted with your foot. You can do that in fashion with most of the wah VSTs - some are much more adjustable than necessary to nail just about any wah tone actually. At least some of the freeware offering CAN be controlled with a MIDI foot controller, unlike the AT2 JHE one.

I did like the univibe in the JHE better than the SimulAnalog one at first, but now that I mix some uneffected tone back in to smooth out the sweep (also making it sound more eccentric) I actually prefer the SimulAnalog one (it also sounds better than my Voodoo Lab MicroVibe).

There are several amp sims (nearly all of them) I prefer to anything in the Amplitube lineup.

The fuzzes are the high point of the JHE - they sound authentic. The freeware ones don't sound much like a vintage germanium fuzz, but they do react with the wah and the univibe in the same peaky trippy kind of way, and they do sound like a fuzz - so it's all cool!

[Cosmic Bandito]

I guess everyone judges these things from their own perspective. I never cared for fuzz boxes (more of metel distortion guy), even though I'm a huge Jimi fan.

I thought the highlight of the JHE was the vintage amps sims. IMO, Amplitube2 never quite sounded good with single coils pups in my strat, which is my main axe. One magazine reviewer stated this about AT2 as well (SOS or EM, I can't remember), about it sounding much better with Humbucker equipped guitars.

The JHE amps work much better with Single Coils and there is less "polish" for lack of a better word, than the amps in AT2. Someone also noticed this and mentioned it in this thread a few pages ago. But it seems there is more dynamic response with the JHE amps and that the "polished" sound of the AT2 amps is removed.

So, from my perspective the JHE is a better bet for Strat lovers because of the vintage amp sims and better dynamic response with SC equipped guitars. The Fuzzes are no doubt great, as is the univibe, but none of these FX are what I usually like to use. I think JHE is missing, in big way, a phaser, chorus, and delay. If you play a strat and put a few quality FX infront of the Marshall or Fender Twin in JHE, you've got yourself a nice guitar sound there!

[A4ntar]

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[multree]

I would disagree though..... I like AT2 way better when it comes to regular guitar sounds - as for wild FX GuitarRig2 is really cool

[A3ntar]

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ROFLMAO...Hourray!!! I got my own mini-Me now

Btw, I finally got my AT2JHE serial!!!

Thanks Squids!

[A3ntar]

Hey Squids,

Is that Phill Collins with you on that picture?!!