Madrona Labs Sumu

[WasteLand]

Still bad optimized. On my i9 with 32 Gb ram on windows 11 it uses 30% of cpu with latency of 512 ms. Do a standalone only if You can’t optimize more.
First synth I will pass from Randy

optimizations will follow. i believe already in the 1.0.1 version.

on a Ryzen 9 5900x, already ancient. it draws 60% from one core, 256 sanple buffer size, 8 voices.

the buffer fill, to call it that way is 60% or so... that is the main thing.

Reaper reports 3.8 of 5ms, that is more than 69% i believe.

it leaves enough room for other synths.

perhaps my very ancient RME Multiface, also as something to with it... i don't know.

lowering the voices helps. 8 voices are not always necessary.

[Sackbut]

I haven't heard anything so far (in all the vids I've watched, including the recent Dash Glitch one) from this synth that is any different or better than anything else, and Dash really didn't seem all that into it either.

Sumu sometimes sounds like cheap tape manipulations from the 70's (like the vocal 'munchkin' parts. Like what we could do with Soundedit 16.) Speaking of which, even Severed Heads could get better sounds back in the early eighties than this Sumu. Or Iris 2.

Maybe one day, someone will finally figure out Sumu in a way that can make me appreciate it and say, wow, but so far, it's disappointing.

Have you ever heard some of the-- free-- synths from NI's Reaktor library?
I get this nagging suspicion that there are a lot of people who want to like Sumu and aren't being honest with themselves.

Meanwhile, Dash hogs the screen as usual, so that Sumu has to be scaled down. Given my review/comment here and there, I suppose it's appropriate.
...Importing a granular synth's sound into Sumu? Really? What's the point? Adding a reverb? Really? Why? Should we not listen to Sumu standing on its own? Sumu's 3D thing in this context seems more like a gimmick and/or mask-over.

Come on Dash/Sumu users, up your game.

The emperor has no clothes.

$129's a ripoff.

[martiu]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

[martinjuenke]

Come on Dash/Sumu users, up your game.

Your wish is my order, master:
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/track/study-01

[Sackbut]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

I think part of the catch is actually showing us what the sound was before it got imported. We often don't get that, so it's less possible to know what Sumu is doing to the sound that makes it worth investing in. Like in Iris 2 for example, it's trivial to narrow a selection in the spectrum and have the scanning lines go over it back and forth with some 'odd sounds', but so what.

[martinjuenke]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

I think part of the catch is actually showing us what the sound was before it got imported. We often don't get that, so it's less possible to know what Sumu is doing to the sound that makes it worth investing in. Like in Iris 2 for example, it's trivial to narrow a selection in the spectrum and have the scanning lines go over it back and forth with some 'odd sounds', but so what.

If you try the demo yourself you would see that your assumptions are wrong concerning SUMU.

[Sackbut]

Come on Dash/Sumu users, up your game.

Your wish is my order, master:
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/track/study-01

So far it sounds like a typical 'e-collage'-- lot's of hissing by the way-- one might have heard in some early works or from the students and/or researchers out of academia in the 70's or 80's.
Fade ins and outs and maybe go to a beach, record some surf and then go to a construction site and record that and then layer it together back in the studio with your four/eight-track tape.

Thanks for sharing just the same.

[martinjuenke]

Come on Dash/Sumu users, up your game.

Your wish is my order, master:
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/track/study-01

So far it sounds like a typical 'e-collage'-- lot's of hissing by the way-- one might have heard in some early works or from the students and/or researchers out of academia in the 70's or 80's.
Fade ins and outs and maybe go to a beach, record some surf and then go to a construction site and record that and then layer it together back in the studio with your four/eight-track tape.

Thanks for sharing just the same.

We're waiting for your innovative music...

[Sackbut]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

I think part of the catch is actually showing us what the sound was before it got imported. We often don't get that, so it's less possible to know what Sumu is doing to the sound that makes it worth investing in. Like in Iris 2 for example, it's trivial to narrow a selection in the spectrum and have the scanning lines go over it back and forth with some 'odd sounds', but so what.

If you try the demo yourself you would see that your assumptions are wrong concerning SUMU.

They are not really assumptions at all, just my take on what I've heard so far, both from users, from You Tubers and even, earlier on, from Madrona Labs, itself.

But, yes, as uninspired as I am to bother checking out the demo, I suppose that may finally answer it for me.

[Sackbut]

Come on Dash/Sumu users, up your game.

Your wish is my order, master:
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/track/study-01

So far it sounds like a typical 'e-collage'-- lot's of hissing by the way-- one might have heard in some early works or from the students and/or researchers out of academia in the 70's or 80's.
Fade ins and outs and maybe go to a beach, record some surf and then go to a construction site and record that and then layer it together back in the studio with your four/eight-track tape.

Thanks for sharing just the same.

We're waiting for your innovative music...

Ya, good point and point taken. Hard to settle on something (except where parting with $100+ might be concerned).

[martiu]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

I think part of the catch is actually showing us what the sound was before it got imported. We often don't get that, so it's less possible to know what Sumu is doing to the sound that makes it worth investing in. Like in Iris 2 for example, it's trivial to narrow a selection in the spectrum and have the scanning lines go over it back and forth with some 'odd sounds', but so what.

play the video at 15.44 and after that at 24.00 and look at the sample window, it uses the same sample that is named Chant, the results however are very different, that shows the ability of the synth to manipulate sound sources drastically

[Sackbut]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

I think part of the catch is actually showing us what the sound was before it got imported. We often don't get that, so it's less possible to know what Sumu is doing to the sound that makes it worth investing in. Like in Iris 2 for example, it's trivial to narrow a selection in the spectrum and have the scanning lines go over it back and forth with some 'odd sounds', but so what.

play the video at 15.44 and after that at 24.00 and look at the sample window, it uses the same sample that is named Chant, the results however are very different, that shows the ability of the synth to manipulate sound sources drastically

I listened to it again and fair enough. I'll give the demo a spin.

[Dirtgrain]

. . . and Dash really didn't seem all that into it either.

Perhaps you had just before watched the bald guy, who laughs every time he turns a knob/slider, reviewing Zyklop? This might mask Dash's extreme joy in using Sumu.

Seriously, I was digging on some of the sounds from the video, and I can't say I can replicate them in other synths accurately.

[Dirtgrain]

Come on Dash/Sumu users, up your game.

Your wish is my order, master:
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/track/study-01

Oh, hell yeah--that's tasty.

[zerocrossing]

Really? The soundscapes he made at around 23min mark sound very good to me, sort of a Scorn soundtrack vibe, very organic and complex sounding.

I think part of the catch is actually showing us what the sound was before it got imported. We often don't get that, so it's less possible to know what Sumu is doing to the sound that makes it worth investing in. Like in Iris 2 for example, it's trivial to narrow a selection in the spectrum and have the scanning lines go over it back and forth with some 'odd sounds', but so what.

If you try the demo yourself you would see that your assumptions are wrong concerning SUMU.

That’s what I did, and I was blown away. I didn’t hear a single demo of it, but tried it based on my experience with Aalto. I liked it so much, I went for Madrona’s full bundle. Awesome stuff.