Bargain Center: discussion, gossip, etc.

[BBFG#]

Shall I paypal you 66 bucks then and you pass me the serial? joking XD (I think that is considered illegal by the way as a triangular transaction)

Awesome synth. Do what you must to get it.

Is it? If it was Diva at that price, I wouldn't hesitate - but I'm not up on the Repro goss. Time to educate myself I think.

I use Diva often, not so much of Repro. But I do think it's well worth owning. Remember you're getting two Repros for the price and neither one should be dismissed.

[Ou_Tis]

FYI: Splice has changed their policy on promo codes so that they're not valid if you've ever subscribed before.

[Ou_Tis]

Shall I paypal you 66 bucks then and you pass me the serial? joking XD (I think that is considered illegal by the way as a triangular transaction)

Awesome synth. Do what you must to get it.

Is it? If it was Diva at that price, I wouldn't hesitate - but I'm not up on the Repro goss. Time to educate myself I think.

I use Diva often, not so much of Repro. But I I do think it's well worth owning. Remember you're getting two Repros for the price and neither one should be dismissed.

Repro's factory presets sound much better than Diva's IMO. I generally don't gaf about old synths---I generally consider a synth being based on something old as a negative, especially if it's not connected with any artists I've ever particularly cared about (like The Cure)---but Repro does have some nostalgia value for me from its James Blake connection (he used a Prophet '08 (all analog) on a lot of his best work, which recreates sounds from previous Prophet synths, so it's somewhat close to Repro).

I also don't like it when synth plugins sound like pale imitations of hardware. Based on the comparisons I've heard it seems to be less noisy, have less saturation, and less of that sense of depth you often get with hardware. But being less noisy isn't necessarily bad, and with lots of effects and some Acustica (or similar, or some actual hardware) for saturation it seems good enough.

[BBFG#]

Shall I paypal you 66 bucks then and you pass me the serial? joking XD (I think that is considered illegal by the way as a triangular transaction)

Awesome synth. Do what you must to get it.

Is it? If it was Diva at that price, I wouldn't hesitate - but I'm not up on the Repro goss. Time to educate myself I think.

I use Diva often, not so much of Repro. But I I do think it's well worth owning. Remember you're getting two Repros for the price and neither one should be dismissed.

Repro's factory presets sound much better than Diva's IMO. I generally don't gaf about old synths---I generally consider a synth being based on something old as a negative, especially if it's not connected with any artists I've ever particularly cared about (like The Cure)---but Repro does have some nostalgia value for me from its James Blake connection (he used a Prophet '08 (all analog) on a lot of his best work, which recreates sounds from previous Prophet synths, so it's somewhat close to Repro).

I also don't like it when synth plugins sound like pale imitations of hardware. Based on the comparisons I've heard it seems to be less noisy, have less saturation, and less of that sense of depth you often get with hardware. But being less noisy isn't necessarily bad, and with lots of effects and some Acustica (or similar, or some actual hardware) for saturation it seems good enough.

IDK, comparing presets seems rather pointless in itself to me. SC emus generally have a mid bass centric eq bias to me is all. I used to own a pro one and am happy that this emu is better than the original. SC in those days had lots of production problems and a few forced recalls. Nothing in either Diva or Repro can be dismissed as "better" than the other IMO. No one is forcing anyone to buy them. But I'm definitely glad I jumped on a previous deal getting them.

[Ou_Tis]

IDK, comparing presets seems rather pointless in itself to me. SC emus generally have a mid bass centric eq bias to me is all. I used to own a pro one and am happy that this emu is better than the original. SC in those days had lots of production problems and a few forced recalls. Nothing in either Diva or Repro can be dismissed as "better" than the other IMO. No one is forcing anyone to buy them. But I'm definitely glad I jumped on a previous deal getting them.

Repro-1 is better than the original... in terms of sound? Or features?

For Repro-5, it seems like Softube's Model 80 might be better at capturing the noisiness and saturation of the hardware---or of some units anyway---but that's not necessarily preferable. (And the Softube lacks MPE; so as a Seaboard player Repro is the better choice for me. That, or use the Prophet multisamples with round robins in Equator2. The primary advantage of the modeled version for me is the ability to play the analog filters expressively on the Seaboard.)



Personally, I'm mainly interested in playing synths and using them in songs, and I'm not particularly interested in doing synth sound design from scratch. Especially not on 40+ year old technology with lots of arcane circuit emulation controls I have minimal desire to learn that still produces a comparatively small diversity of sounds (relative to other synthesis methods and their combinations). For sound design I'd rather focus on something newer like Myth, or something more interesting (and capable of greater variety), or on vocals or percussion.

So I'm generally just interested in tweaking presets. Thus they matter a lot to me. And the factory presets should also demonstrate what the synth is capable of... though many great synth plugins fail at that.

[BBFG#]

Like I said, no one is forcing you to buy it. If you don't feel it's worth the sale price, don't buy it. I think your subjective comparisons to my subjective preferences are probably best left to a thread in the instruments subforum.
And iLok makes Softube something I refuse to own. (Which is also better left to another thread.)

[Ou_Tis]

Like I said, no one is forcing you to buy it. If you don't feel it's worth the sale price, don't buy it. I think your subjective comparisons to my subjective preferences are probably best left to a thread in the instruments subforum.
And iLok makes Softube something I refuse to own. (Which is also better left to another thread.)

I already own it and I like it. A little. I've ended up using it on a whopping one song in the five years I've had it. Just giving my opinions + some information.

[cptgone]

For Repro-5, it seems like Softube's Model 80 might be better at capturing the noisiness and saturation of the hardware---or of some units anyway---

Repro and Model 80 are indeed based on different units (you raise some excellent further points, but I wanted to emphasize this one in case anyone is wondering which is the 'best' emulation).

Another thing: Uhe has proven to be exceptionally dedicated to keeping their products up to date, and even expand on them in many cases.

[Michael L]

FYI, the free Expose plugin from Mastering the Mix requires a newsletter signup, enter your details at least threee times, then download the Installer for 8 plugin demos. Not sure it's worth it.

[elxsound]

FYI, the free Expose plugin from Mastering the Mix requires a newsletter signup, enter your details at least threee times, then download the Installer for 8 plugin demos. Not sure it's worth it.

Buy it. Buy it now.

[Michael L]

FYI, the free Expose plugin from Mastering the Mix requires a newsletter signup, enter your details at least threee times, then download the Installer for 8 plugin demos. Not sure it's worth it.

Buy it. Buy it now.

for the very low cost of your time installing, uninstalling, unsubscribing, and deleting spam from whoever buys your email from them. They found a way to make money from a 'free' plugin.

[Uncle E]

I already own it and I like it. A little. I've ended up using it on a whopping one song in the five years I've had it. Just giving my opinions + some information.

I compared them extensively and found that I could get them to sound pretty much the same at any setting. But if a little grunge/noise is what you're looking for, put UA Verve after it. Even Verve at its subtlest setting will make up any difference you're hearing between Repro and Model 80.

[wayford]

Not sure where to say this, but if anyone was planning to buy Relab's Sonsig Rev A, don't hesitate. They are working on updates and will also add HiDPI support in the future, presumably for the LX480 too. The support said they don't have a timeframe yet, but I was still glad to hear it.

[Uncle E]

What is this HiDPI reverb algorithm you speak of?

[Project]

What is this HiDPI reverb algorithm you speak of?

I think he's referring to the resolution of the graphic interface and it being scalable (Hi DPI) and not to the actual sound of the reverb