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Taika-Kim · Post by **Taika-Kim** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:53 pm

Ubuntu Studio 15.04, TC Electronic Impact Twin, Phenom X6, everything works otherwise fine, but I was testing the plugins in Renoise 3.0.1, and I had a few times when the sound engine stopped, and I had to reinitialize it from Renoise settings. Once was when a sequence was playing and I inserted MFM into the channel, and the other was when tweaking or changing preset with Hive.
I tried all plugins, and just tweaked around, everything went very smoothly, running at 8ms latency, could never, ever do that in Windows without dropouts

But my Linux setup is very new, so it is entirely possible that these issues are with my sound drivers too, can't say yet.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:57 pm

Beamboom wrote: No need to go for the specialized, smaller "media" distros.

Smaller? The main media distros are all 1.5 gig on up, and there is only one that
I know of, that fits on a CD, and it's a separate lite version.

By the time someone downloads and installs and configures a large iso,
media or generic, enough time has passed that quite a few apps and dependencies have updates available. By starting with a small cd sized 'non' media' distro, and adding only what you will use, some long term stability can hopefully be maintained.

Updates-just-because are what keep clickbait help-forums alive. When a system works,
no need for blindly updating, practice your instruments, learn mixing and mastering,
and let the fearless masses be your spear-catchers.

The next big thing should be produced by you, not purchased by you.
Those glittery big thing$ will be there a year from now.
A lot of skillz can be grown in a year.

This reads like a rant, but it's only meant to help some
future google wanderer avoid being suffocated by gas fumes.

Cheers

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Sun Sep 13, 2015 1:48 pm

Add my voice to the "Where's the updated versions?" choir. I'm experiencing crashes in the latest Bitwig when I try to use ACE with other synths. To wit: SynthMaster Player on one track, Alchemy Player on another, add ACE to a third track, and boom, out go the lights. All plugins will crash, and no order of re-starting them is effective. OTOH, I added six other synths (no u-he) after the two mentioned, with no crashing. Only the u-he synth crashes.

Major bummer, because I use ACE a lot. It's worked fine in other versions of Bitwig, which leads me to think it's BW's fault, but the crashing gave me a viable reason to ask what's up with the updates.

So, when's the party ?

Best,

dp

Beamboom · Post by **Beamboom** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:55 am

glokraw wrote: Smaller?

I talk about user-base, share of Linux distros. I point out that a smaller community, a smaller user-base and maintaining crew may potentially (logically?) deliver a more unstable experience, based on the logic that the biggest distros are tested on the most hardware constellations, go through a better QA and are most mature.

I may be wrong in that assumption of course, but that was my point, not the file sizes.

glokraw wrote:By starting with a small cd sized 'non' media' distro, and adding only what you will use, some long term stability can hopefully be maintained.

By all means, what qualifies as the "best distro" does depend on, amongst other things, your own competence. Luckily in the Linux world we got choices. Plenty of choices. Some even say too many choices.

But for a relatively new Linux audio workstation user I do honestly think that the best advice is to aim for the main road. In my personal experience that leads to the least issues and challenges.

That doesn't mean it's the right distro for everyone, of course. It most certainly isn't.

glokraw wrote:When a system works, no need for blindly updating

A good principle. But no distro that I know of force you to update anything ever.

Beamboom · Post by **Beamboom** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:36 am

Taika-Kim wrote:There is something strange with that script, the downloads start first to slow, and then stop after some megabytes, the farthest I got was the third product on the list at the best... Individually through Chrome via the links everything downloaded really fast., altough I got some network errors (as reported by the browser download window).

Unfortunately I've experienced quite a few download issues from these servers myself, and I don't see how it can be related to the script but rather that the servers seem to be quite underdimentioned for the task. You just have to take a break and try again later.

abique · Post by **abique** » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:12 pm

Hello,

Here is an update of the u-he plugins, be aware: both the "Linux layer" and "plugin layer" are beta this time, so if it does not work, please just rollback to the version at the first page of this thread.

Here are the tarballs:
ACE-3860
Bazille-3860
Diva-3860
Filterscape-3860
Hive-3860
MFM2-3860
Podolski-3860
Presswerk-3860
Satin-3860
Uhbik-3860
Zebra2-3860

Enjoy!

tomsa · Post by **tomsa** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:39 am

Thank you, abique! Let the bug hunt begin!

TS

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:57 am

Thanks again, Alex ! I'll be testing a bunch today, will let you know of any problems.

Best,

dp

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:49 am

Greetings,

Bad news here. The u-he plugins I've tested all work fine in BWS 1.2 b7. Alas, loading any plugin from another manufacturer crashes all the plugins. For example, SynthMaster Player and Alchemy Player work fine here with other plugins, but they crash when I load a u-he plugin. Those players are Airwave-enabled, but I've verified the behavior with natively-built plugs too. Adding the latest Bliss demo crashed all the plugins, and again it runs fine as long as no u-he plugins are also loaded.

I consider this a major issue (well, it's certainly major here). Can anyone else verify the problem ? Again, I'm on Fedora 21 x86_64 with rt kernel from Planet CCRMA. I'll be happy to provide further details if someone can tell me how to do so with BW and the u-he plugins.

TIA,

dp

abique · Post by **abique** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:27 pm

Hi, I did not have such issues.
I'll check that.

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:40 pm

abique wrote:Hi, I did not have such issues.
I'll check that.

Further note: This morning I tested the latest ACE in Ardour4, in a simple test along with discoDSP's Vertigo, a Cabbage-made synth (JUCE-based), and Nick Dowell's amSynth. All native Linux VSTs, no problems in Ardour4.

I'll drop back to BWS 1.1.11 to check for the problem there. I don't recall ever having trouble with u-he plugins playing nicely with anything else in Bitwig.

Weird problem.

Best,

dp

StudioDave · Post by **StudioDave** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:20 am

Problem solved, apparently. I ticked the u-he plugins as exceptions to the default plugin management setting, and now I have no trouble with co-existence. I have no idea why it works, but it works. I'm happy.

Back to play.

Best,

dp

drakmaniso · Post by **drakmaniso** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:30 pm

StudioDave wrote:I have no idea why it works, but it works.

If you haven't changed Bitwig default settings (just above the list of plugins), this means you activated sandboxing for all U-He plugins. So they all run in their own thread now, which may have a small impact on performance.

Beamboom · Post by **Beamboom** » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:36 pm

Abique, you've forgot to change the mouse scroll behaviour in the preset/patch listings, as discussed earlier in this thread (it's opposite as to how it should behave).

danboid · Post by **danboid** » Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:51 pm

Linux build 3860

GOOD NEWS

Themes work now! At least Orange Zebra does anyway.

BAD NEWS

Pushing CTRL+Z to undo under zebralette is still broken under Ardour, Qtractor and Tracktion.

Could someone please verify undo still doesn't work under Bitwig too?

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