Zebra 3 feature suggestions
- KVRAF
- 24414 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Well, a compromise would be to have more than 4 modmappers, at least...
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 22 Jan, 2010 from Oregon, U.S.
Re: The ongoing visual feedback discussion: Other fancier animations aside, I appreciate the solution that Vital uses for showing visual feedback of all modulator signals in a compact vertical strip of the interface. It's more minimalist than Pigments' horizontal modulator visualization strip, but still enables you to see everything going on at once. As someone who likes to avoid frequent computer upgrades, I appreciate efforts to balance GUI usability and CPU usage.
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- KVRist
- 206 posts since 23 Apr, 2006
Yes - that's nicely done. If I could tweak it I'd make it a bit less vivid/contrasty though, but it's a neat bit of design
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- KVRist
- 85 posts since 19 Jul, 2004
MIDI export for Arpeggiator please!
Thx
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Intel Mac, OSX 10.8x, RME Fireface, Logic 9
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
How about a notch filter to check if your randomizerMonsterPuppet wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:30 am Please a randomizer for the comb filters to check if your headphones are top notch.
combed it's hair before school?
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Obsolete485692 Obsolete485692 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=485692
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- 42 posts since 26 Dec, 2020
Wave editor showing up number of partial - like in Serum (this would make my day).
Maybe more than two fxs per synth.
-I would not (sometimes) mind more than 16 waveforms per synth.
Stack of synths (like in Diva).
Better envelopes - with polynomial feature or something more advanced (than oldschool bezier curves)) - I basically quit using modulation in Zebra and use Bitwig modulation instead.
Maybe better wavetable integration than using Blueberrything (which is now also in BW), though I am not using it much and use much more Spectro modes.
Better arp maybe - I rarely now use Zebra arp and usually using Architect.
But all in all: Zebra is pretty good now..
Maybe more than two fxs per synth.
-I would not (sometimes) mind more than 16 waveforms per synth.
Stack of synths (like in Diva).
Better envelopes - with polynomial feature or something more advanced (than oldschool bezier curves)) - I basically quit using modulation in Zebra and use Bitwig modulation instead.
Maybe better wavetable integration than using Blueberrything (which is now also in BW), though I am not using it much and use much more Spectro modes.
Better arp maybe - I rarely now use Zebra arp and usually using Architect.
But all in all: Zebra is pretty good now..
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Obsolete485692 Obsolete485692 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=485692
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- 42 posts since 26 Dec, 2020
It should not be that hard to set max 16 notes to MIDI editor, tough it would be nice, but maybe saving arp and being able to load it in another preset would be little bit more useful (at least for me)).
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
My ghast is flabberedAliam Sigsaly wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:12 pm I basically quit using modulation in Zebra and use Bitwig modulation instead.
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Obsolete485692 Obsolete485692 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=485692
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- 42 posts since 26 Dec, 2020
Bezier curves are in Ableton since 2013 (even Photoshop left this in 2018)), and I personally rather use some polynomial function (or just polynom) in Bitwig´s Grid, or modulate in audio rate (using oscillators instead of LFO), route modulation signal thru other fxs like distortion, chebyshev etc. Beside in modulation of DAW are logic function AND, OR, NOT.., mathematic function like multiply, divide log, sin.. and you can run it in more tracks and see modulation shape in oscilloscope.Howard wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:42 amMy ghast is flabberedAliam Sigsaly wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:12 pm I basically quit using modulation in Zebra and use Bitwig modulation instead.![]()
But it would all be probably bad to see something like this in Zebra, right?
Happy New year.
- u-he
- 30204 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Bezier curves have been in Zebra are since 2006, and will be more obvious in future versions. Their advantage is the ease of visual editing and their predictability. Their piece-wise nature and precise placement of end points is key to musicality.
In contrast, once people have to enter mathematical formulas to do the same kind of modulation, the synth will flop in an instant. If only three people can operate it, there's no business model left.
In contrast, once people have to enter mathematical formulas to do the same kind of modulation, the synth will flop in an instant. If only three people can operate it, there's no business model left.
- u-he
- 30204 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Cableguys use NURBS, a special extension to Bezier Curves where the weights of the control points can be chosen arbitrarily. That however requires elaborate tools to edit them, or loss of control. Cableguys IIRC went with a system that sets the weights according to 3 or so presets which promote softer vs. sharper shapes. It's quick but I prefer more control.NAD wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:29 pm Not sure what exactly people are referring to with "Bezier curves". What do you call the kind of curves you get in the Cableguys plugins?
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Obsolete485692 Obsolete485692 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=485692
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- 42 posts since 26 Dec, 2020
I am not sure whether Zebra has simple Bezier curves: when I modulate f. e. kick amp envelope (lane volume) just with automation (in Bezier curve) and compare it with sound from Zebra´s envelope, Zebra sounds much better and it looks like there is some additional smoothing. Similarly LFO etc. seems to me sounds better in Zebra than when it comes from the DAW, but with some addition tweaks of modulation signal in the BW´s Grid (like using comb filter etc.), it seems to me quite comparable.
I also dont to much understand how would option to bend envelope curve not only in the middle (like in Photoshop Pen tool) compromise musicality and visual editing (starting and ending points are kept in same place). Similarly using Polynom device (in BW; I think Ableton has it in M4L) is fairly simple.
But I can imagine, that keep thing simpler may be good thing for making good sounding synth.
I also dont to much understand how would option to bend envelope curve not only in the middle (like in Photoshop Pen tool) compromise musicality and visual editing (starting and ending points are kept in same place). Similarly using Polynom device (in BW; I think Ableton has it in M4L) is fairly simple.
But I can imagine, that keep thing simpler may be good thing for making good sounding synth.
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Zebra-internal modulation sources are interactive in a way you simply can't replace with automation.
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Is it also one of the best vsts for usability?gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:58 am One of the currently most powerfull and best sounding vst has nothing but sliders ( tranzistow )
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