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wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.

I don't know how we ever got to a world where you paid for software and had to hope and pray that the company that sold it to you didn't go out of business or you'd lose it.

And what gets me is that people today just accept that.

While I live with it, because I have no choice, I will never accept it.

It's a cruel world man, but change is inevitable. I just deal with it and shell out the cash. I do like software, I think its good, but ya know, sometimes I disagree. what today's synthesis' doesn't understand is just how different it actually is. sometimes even I forget because I got it so easy. All good. I'm not trying to hate, i'm just being honest and I guess I have an affect between x sales, and x^2 sales. I hope the x^2 sales are buying.

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wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.

I don't know how we ever got to a world where you paid for software and had to hope and pray that the company that sold it to you didn't go out of business or you'd lose it.

And what gets me is that people today just accept that.

While I live with it, because I have no choice, I will never accept it.
Well, you could always fire up the IDE and compiler and write your own software. That way, you really own it and can do whatever you want with it.

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tony10000 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:45 am
wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.

I don't know how we ever got to a world where you paid for software and had to hope and pray that the company that sold it to you didn't go out of business or you'd lose it.

And what gets me is that people today just accept that.

While I live with it, because I have no choice, I will never accept it.
Well, you could always fire up the IDE and compiler and write your own software. That way, you really own it and can do whatever you want with it.
If I could make my own synths and FX and DAWs and all that stuff, trust me, I would. But I can't. So I'm at the mercy of the software developers.

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tony10000 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:45 am
wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.

I don't know how we ever got to a world where you paid for software and had to hope and pray that the company that sold it to you didn't go out of business or you'd lose it.

And what gets me is that people today just accept that.

While I live with it, because I have no choice, I will never accept it.
Well, you could always fire up the IDE and compiler and write your own software. That way, you really own it and can do whatever you want with it.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have read all day. I am a software dev and don’t have the skills to do this. There are definite arguments to be had about the sad state of licensing these days so stop trying to shut people up with such a ridiculous red herring.

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jasonekratz wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:33 am
tony10000 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:45 am
wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.

I don't know how we ever got to a world where you paid for software and had to hope and pray that the company that sold it to you didn't go out of business or you'd lose it.

And what gets me is that people today just accept that.

While I live with it, because I have no choice, I will never accept it.
Well, you could always fire up the IDE and compiler and write your own software. That way, you really own it and can do whatever you want with it.
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have read all day. I am a software dev and don’t have the skills to do this. There are definite arguments to be had about the sad state of licensing these days so stop trying to shut people up with such a ridiculous red herring.
Not really... See: https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/P ... ugNScript/

You can also do the same in Reaktor, SynthEdit, Flowstone, etc.
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wagtunes wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:20 am Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.
The software I download today is also mine for as long as I have a computer that runs it.

Nothing has changed...

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Gotta ask.
I didn’t see it on the new features list, so I would presume it’s a no, but:
Microtuning?
Boo-Frickety-Hoo.
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I have no need for another synth nor really the extra cash for one, but man after watching Ave use Dune 3 to make a beat...sorry guys it's not EDM tho. Dune is one of the absolute best synths for trap/hip hop yet it feels like every beat in those genres are made with Omnisphere and keyscape and I don't know why. Dune has some of the best arps on the market and now with 3 having added a 2nd arp alongside, I can see some songs charting using this synth.

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INIT_KS wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:17 pm

I didn't really A/B, but, Dune 3 sounds exactly the same to me as Dune 2. Of course, disregarding the obvious differences because of the new filters and stuff.
Dune 2 and Dune 3 can not sound the same. Dune 3 has gotten new filters, effects, EQs...for example. I programmed 250 factory sounds, I know what I'm talking about.
you clearly do NOT know what you are talking about. D2 and D3 can sound exactly the same, otherwise it wouldnt be backwards compatible.

please think very carefully about the way you word your posts, you are spreading false information.

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INIT_KS wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:46 pm
zvenx wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:32 pm They are all D2 factory presets, so indeed should not be using any of the new stuff.
But should be a good way to compare the audio engine itself.
And no external, efx, eq's, compressors or even limiters were used.
(and no puppies tortured :) )

rsp
It's Upgrade, Dune 3 is not a new synthesizer. I'm out. :arrow:
Lol. The marketing bullshit continues. Newly created member and talking nonsense...
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AnX wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:38 am
INIT_KS wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:17 pm

I didn't really A/B, but, Dune 3 sounds exactly the same to me as Dune 2. Of course, disregarding the obvious differences because of the new filters and stuff.
Dune 2 and Dune 3 can not sound the same. Dune 3 has gotten new filters, effects, EQs...for example. I programmed 250 factory sounds, I know what I'm talking about.
you clearly do NOT know what you are talking about. D2 and D3 can sound exactly the same, otherwise it wouldnt be backwards compatible.

please think very carefully about the way you word your posts, you are spreading false information.
Ummm...that is Kevin Schroeder, one of the top sound designers in the world. I think he knows what he is talking about. What he is saying is that while you can get Dune 2 sounds from Dune 3, you cannot get Dune 3 sounds from Dune 2. The Dune 2 feature set is a subset of the Dune 3 feature set. That should be pretty easy to understand.

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tony10000 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:17 am
AnX wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:38 am
INIT_KS wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:17 pm

I didn't really A/B, but, Dune 3 sounds exactly the same to me as Dune 2. Of course, disregarding the obvious differences because of the new filters and stuff.
Dune 2 and Dune 3 can not sound the same. Dune 3 has gotten new filters, effects, EQs...for example. I programmed 250 factory sounds, I know what I'm talking about.
you clearly do NOT know what you are talking about. D2 and D3 can sound exactly the same, otherwise it wouldnt be backwards compatible.

please think very carefully about the way you word your posts, you are spreading false information.
Ummm...that is Kevin Schroeder, one of the top sound designers in the world. I think he knows what he is talking about. What he is saying is that while you can get Dune 2 sounds from Dune 3, you cannot get Dune 3 sounds from Dune 2. The Dune 2 feature set is a subset of the Dune 3 feature set. That should be pretty easy to understand.
i dont care who he is, or what you think he is, none of that is relevant

read his post, then read mine

edit: if he had written what you did, there wouldn't be a problem
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Caine123 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:48 am ............

Lol. The marketing bullshit continues. Newly created member and talking nonsense...

You know that that is most likely Kevin Schroeder, whom I may disagree with but most likely knows his stuff re: Dune.

edit: Beaten to it, twice.
rsp
sound sculptist

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AnX wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:22 am
tony10000 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:17 am
AnX wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:38 am
INIT_KS wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:17 pm

I didn't really A/B, but, Dune 3 sounds exactly the same to me as Dune 2. Of course, disregarding the obvious differences because of the new filters and stuff.
Dune 2 and Dune 3 can not sound the same. Dune 3 has gotten new filters, effects, EQs...for example. I programmed 250 factory sounds, I know what I'm talking about.
you clearly do NOT know what you are talking about. D2 and D3 can sound exactly the same, otherwise it wouldnt be backwards compatible.

please think very carefully about the way you word your posts, you are spreading false information.
Ummm...that is Kevin Schroeder, one of the top sound designers in the world. I think he knows what he is talking about. What he is saying is that while you can get Dune 2 sounds from Dune 3, you cannot get Dune 3 sounds from Dune 2. The Dune 2 feature set is a subset of the Dune 3 feature set. That should be pretty easy to understand.
i know exactly who he is, and what you think he is, none of that is relevant

read his post, then read mine
I read both of your posts. Read mine. It clarifies everything.

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tony10000 wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:17 am
AnX wrote: Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:38 am
INIT_KS wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:17 pm

I didn't really A/B, but, Dune 3 sounds exactly the same to me as Dune 2. Of course, disregarding the obvious differences because of the new filters and stuff.
Dune 2 and Dune 3 can not sound the same. Dune 3 has gotten new filters, effects, EQs...for example. I programmed 250 factory sounds, I know what I'm talking about.
you clearly do NOT know what you are talking about. D2 and D3 can sound exactly the same, otherwise it wouldnt be backwards compatible.

please think very carefully about the way you word your posts, you are spreading false information.
Ummm...that is Kevin Schroeder, one of the top sound designers in the world. I think he knows what he is talking about. What he is saying is that while you can get Dune 2 sounds from Dune 3, you cannot get Dune 3 sounds from Dune 2. The Dune 2 feature set is a subset of the Dune 3 feature set. That should be pretty easy to understand.

... except he didnt say that :roll:

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