DUNE 3 is now available!!

[cytospur]

Some quick wavetable demos made whilst beta testing. The wavetables are my own creations.

This one contains wavetables based on text-to-speech synthesis:

https://soundcloud.com/markholt/mh-wavetable-demo

This one uses wavetables created from drum loops:

https://soundcloud.com/markholt/mh-funky-tables

My own personal offerings, nothing official!

[fluffy_little_something]

SA is the last company where I would be worried about the future of my license... And that's what it is, you only buy the license, not the software itself. So there will always be a certain dependence on the supplier. It's not a tv set that you buy at the mall and you never have anything to do with the manufacturer. When you buy software, you usually enter a kind of long-term relationship with the supplier.

[JunSev]

SA is the last company where I would be worried about the future of my license... And that's what it is, you only buy the license, not the software itself. So there will always be a certain dependence on the supplier. It's not a tv set that you buy at the mall and you never have anything to do with the manufacturer. When you buy software, you usually enter a kind of long-term relationship with the supplier.

Not only very often you don't know what you're talking about in many subjects (respectfully), but your analogies are wrong and misleading. My relation and respect with a company never means that the use of products has to depend completely on the company every time I want to use the software, the user does a investment and receive a product, is your product (but not in a way that you can do whatever you want, there is an agreement, that's why clearly some software developers even shows in their Web page: Download your product.), yes is not like ones has the right to do whatever he wants with it because he has to respect the agreement and terms but it is not like you are trying to paint it, in addition to that I wish Synapse a prosperous and the best for real but I have to think about realistic scenarios simply because things are as it is. Even if his company continue or has been for decades, still, everything depends of the company and that's why better method could be implemented and would be better if the user were more independent.

[Teksonik]

You're right. People pirate becuase they're not gonna pay for it...never were...almost like its not a lost sale........hmmmm

This is not the place to discuss this but If you're trying to say that developers are not hurt by piracy then you my friend are totally lost.

Really if I were you I'd just take it somewhere else. Whining about CP here is not going to do you any good at all. It's pointless.

Anyway your continued discussion about Piracy is getting tiresome.

[zvenx]

"Can Open Source software be used for commercial purposes?

Absolutely. All Open Source software can be used for commercial purpose; the Open Source Definition guarantees this. You can even sell Open Source software.

However, note that commercial is not the same as proprietary. If you receive software under an Open Source license, you can always use that software for commercial purposes, but that doesn't always mean you can place further restrictions on people who receive the software from you. In particular, copyleft-style Open Source licenses require that, in at least some cases, when you distribute the software, you must do so under the same license you received it under."


That is the first answer that starts absolutely, has zero to do with your search question.
rsp

[Pyrotek45]

"Can Open Source software be used for commercial purposes?

Absolutely. All Open Source software can be used for commercial purpose; the Open Source Definition guarantees this. You can even sell Open Source software.

However, note that commercial is not the same as proprietary. If you receive software under an Open Source license, you can always use that software for commercial purposes, but that doesn't always mean you can place further restrictions on people who receive the software from you. In particular, copyleft-style Open Source licenses require that, in at least some cases, when you distribute the software, you must do so under the same license you received it under."




That is the first answer that starts absolutely, has zero to do with your search question.
rsp

The point was to google it for you. And by "own" i mean if you wanna use it whenever you want, however you want it is certainly true.

Open source gives user control over the software and not vice versa. There are plenty of devs who go this route and make money (god bless em)

[djanthonyw]

Did a simple 8 bar look, using three factory presets from Dune 2... Played with both D2 and D3....
Can you tell which is which.
File 1: The first loop is 8 bars of one, then 8 bars of the other, and then 2 more 8 bar loops. (that is 32 bars in total)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6brvzpv7l3tt4 ... h.mp3?dl=0

File 2 is 8 bars of one

https://www.dropbox.com/s/915m5sxkbkhkj ... A.mp3?dl=0

File 3 is 8 bars of the other.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dbt1rjrfq97p ... B.mp3?dl=0

Alas with drop box you either right click and open them in a new tab or download them to play.
But from File 1 which of the four 8 bars is D2 and which of the four 8 bars are D3.
In Files 2 and 3, A & B, which is D2 and which is D3


For me. I think I initially heard the difference, but when I let the 32 bars loop without looking at the DAW, I couldn't tell them apart.
See if D2 is really plasticky and D3 natural.
rsp

A is Dune 3.

[zvenx]

Did a simple 8 bar look, using three factory presets from Dune 2... Played with both D2 and D3....
Can you tell which is which.
File 1: The first loop is 8 bars of one, then 8 bars of the other, and then 2 more 8 bar loops. (that is 32 bars in total)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6brvzpv7l3tt4 ... h.mp3?dl=0

File 2 is 8 bars of one

https://www.dropbox.com/s/915m5sxkbkhkj ... A.mp3?dl=0

File 3 is 8 bars of the other.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dbt1rjrfq97p ... B.mp3?dl=0

Alas with drop box you either right click and open them in a new tab or download them to play.
But from File 1 which of the four 8 bars is D2 and which of the four 8 bars are D3.
In Files 2 and 3, A & B, which is D2 and which is D3


For me. I think I initially heard the difference, but when I let the 32 bars loop without looking at the DAW, I couldn't tell them apart.
See if D2 is really plasticky and D3 natural.
rsp

A is Dune 3.

And out of the 32 bars grouped in four sets of 8 (first link), care to venture which one is D3 and which is D2?
rsp

[Vertion]

Trying to find the perfect copy protection is like squaring a circle:

• If the protection is purely serial based or there is none, the software will be leaked at some point (usually quickly), and some honest customers start to wonder why they paid for something that is "free".
• If there is a protection, then some honest people who are usually not customers (but could be customers) complain that there is one.

So every developer needs to make a choice, and either way some people will not be pleased. We chose what we believe results in the minimum amount of hassle for the user, without giving up on protection completely.

Richard

Richard,

My apologies. Synapse Audio is one of the best companies in the entire market. Frankly, Dune 3 is the only release lately that has created market excitement for the softsynth scene.

You are an expert DSP dev right up there along with Urs, Andy, Steve, Angus, Markus, Jakob, Arguru, etc.

The fact is that Dune 3 is a really great product and synth and a lot of hard work went into this update. Most people are just looking at what is same. I saw Tone2 also go through this in various ways. I think you just need some fresh demo songs to plaster and inspire.

My apologies as well for indirect angst. I'm upset because the world stinks right now, upstate new york, and no dev positions! Ever becoming aware of the grinder around me and how vastly corrupt the world is, and it angers. Of course, I'm in no position to even upgrade at the moment. So, I understand, everyone's got to do what works for their company best.

On a normal day though, I do tend to steer clear of C/R software though. I love the fact I can still load up Vanguard and Plasticz, and I own them legitimately. Basic serial allows the personal security of 'having' when I place on my backups and I feel more comfortable to become 'spiritually intimate' with the product. 'Mine.'

You are right, if you packaged the effects alone, you could make money on that alone.

Dune 3 looks and sounds great, people are reading because they know this, and have value in this produxt. Which is why so many expectations are present. They know your products are awesome, and they want to feel it's their very own and get pissed when it's not. Others lack the clarity to see the many updates and hard work that went into the product, mostly because the wait and excitement has been riding on Dune 3 for a lot of people with burning GAS have had no new exciting ayntha other than Dune 3 to look forwards to. Always need something to look forwards to.

I know my affect on this market at times and I apologize for the cascades. If I can do anything helpful, I'd be happy to. Afterall, it has the same name as my favorite fictional book of all time.

- WHYH / Vertion

[v1o]

This discussion has become rather broad and unfocussed. Here are some of the things I've learned over 24 hours:
- There is a lack of marketing materials and Youtube videos.
- Discussion on whether a built in wavetable editor is utterly useless
- The merits of copy protection and why you shouldn't support software that phones home despite how much more effective it is in deterring piracy.
- Discussion on whether or not Dune 3 actually sounds different enough to D2
- Why Synapse and other devs should not be supporting NI's approved NKS standard
- How D3 is part of a larger EDM music conspiracy
- How D3 stacks up to Hive, Sylenth1, Serum, Spire etc etc

Interesting stuff!

[djanthonyw]

Did a simple 8 bar look, using three factory presets from Dune 2... Played with both D2 and D3....
Can you tell which is which.
File 1: The first loop is 8 bars of one, then 8 bars of the other, and then 2 more 8 bar loops. (that is 32 bars in total)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6brvzpv7l3tt4 ... h.mp3?dl=0

File 2 is 8 bars of one

https://www.dropbox.com/s/915m5sxkbkhkj ... A.mp3?dl=0

File 3 is 8 bars of the other.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2dbt1rjrfq97p ... B.mp3?dl=0

Alas with drop box you either right click and open them in a new tab or download them to play.
But from File 1 which of the four 8 bars is D2 and which of the four 8 bars are D3.
In Files 2 and 3, A & B, which is D2 and which is D3


For me. I think I initially heard the difference, but when I let the 32 bars loop without looking at the DAW, I couldn't tell them apart.
See if D2 is really plasticky and D3 natural.
rsp

A is Dune 3.

And out of the 32 bars grouped in four sets of 8 (first link), care to venture which one is D3 and which is D2?
rsp

3 / 2 / 2 / 3

[Teksonik]

I'm working on a couple of color edits for Dune 3. If anybody is interested and Synapse doesn't mind me sharing I'd be happy to post them when finished. Nothing wrong with the default, I just personally find Red a bit harsh on the eyes for long hours and I do plan on putting in some long hours.

[Dasheesh]

I'm working on a couple of color edits for Dune 3. If anybody is interested and Synapse doesn't mind me sharing I'd be happy to post them when finished. Nothing wrong with the default, I just personally find Red a bit harsh on the eyes for long hours and I do plan on putting in some long hours.

if it's purple you get a hug.

[tony10000]

I'm working on a couple of color edits for Dune 3. If anybody is interested and Synapse doesn't mind me sharing I'd be happy to post them when finished. Nothing wrong with the default, I just personally find Red a bit harsh on the eyes for long hours and I do plan on putting in some long hours.

Very nice. Everybody seems to be into red lately for some reason (Dune, Avenger, Europa.)

[wagtunes]

Maybe some of you are too young to remember but not all software is like FLS says. There was a time when you went to the store (yes, you actually got out of your damn house) and bought a piece of software that was on a CD ROM or even (gasp) a floppy disk. And it was yours for as long as you had a computer that would run it.

I don't know how we ever got to a world where you paid for software and had to hope and pray that the company that sold it to you didn't go out of business or you'd lose it.

And what gets me is that people today just accept that.

While I live with it, because I have no choice, I will never accept it.