KVR Audio

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:54 pm

No matter where the topic is it will be stupid.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:57 pm

But it's locked.

SWAN808 · Post by **SWAN808** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:02 pm

hakey wrote:Feel free to continue the debate in AD's Xhip thread.

yes please as Id like to keep the thread open and possibly post some more audio when I have time back in the studio.....although some suggested I did this just as marketing I actually started this whole quest to investigate the differences I perceived when using the two - and there are some interesting comments that could do with some testing IMO...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:04 pm

chk071 wrote:But it's locked.

A pre-emptive move, as it were...

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:18 pm

I still don't understand what he wants. Either he says "no, the guys have no idea how Spice works and even if they don't know how to use the method in realtime" or he says "no, Spice doesn't work". Both claims are, well, I leave that up to anyone to decide.

And if anyone is interested how this works, it's all nicely explained here:

http://qucs.sourceforge.net/tech/technical.html

There is all information needed to understand how a circuit simulation package works. This is how we created the basic non-linear model, which we then tweaked by ear to make it sound right for us.

There's not much more to say about this.

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:24 pm

May I kindly remind some posters that if none had interest about whether emulations can be made authetically we would not have Diva. The debate cannot be that pointless. Some contributions are maybe.

SWAN808 · Post by **SWAN808** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:38 pm

I took a quick look at that link Urs and I think I'll take your word for it...

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:38 pm

Urs wrote:I still don't understand what he wants. Either he says "no, the guys have no idea how Spice works and even if they don't know how to use the method in realtime" or he says "no, Spice doesn't work". Both claims are, well, I leave that up to anyone to decide.

Can I politely ask someone for a recap? Who is "he" (aciddose?) and what does Spice has to do with it?

masterhiggins · Post by **masterhiggins** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:47 pm

Locus M wrote:
Urs wrote:I still don't understand what he wants. Either he says "no, the guys have no idea how Spice works and even if they don't know how to use the method in realtime" or he says "no, Spice doesn't work". Both claims are, well, I leave that up to anyone to decide.
Can I politely ask someone for a recap? Who is "he" (aciddose?) and what does Spice has to do with it?

He's a developer that's massively jealous of diva's design and success.

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:52 pm

masterhiggins wrote: He's a developer that's massively jealous of diva's design and success.

Is it someone who posted in this thread and at what page? I recap myself then.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:54 pm

Locus M wrote:
masterhiggins wrote: He's a developer that's massively jealous of diva's design and success.
Is it someone who posted in this thread and at what page? I recap myself then.

You can start pretty much on any page here...he can go on and on and on and on....

Locus M · Post by **Locus M** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:56 pm

trimph1 wrote:
Locus M wrote:
masterhiggins wrote: He's a developer that's massively jealous of diva's design and success.
Is it someone who posted in this thread and at what page? I recap myself then.
You can start pretty much on any page here...he can go on and on and on and on....

So we ARE talking about accidose?

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:01 pm

Locus M wrote:
trimph1 wrote:
Locus M wrote:
masterhiggins wrote: He's a developer that's massively jealous of diva's design and success.
Is it someone who posted in this thread and at what page? I recap myself then.
You can start pretty much on any page here...he can go on and on and on and on....
So we ARE talking about accidose?

Yep.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:06 pm

no further comment required...

aciddose wrote:

Diva does not account for the non-zero impedance of capacitors;

Diva is incapable of emulating feed-through and leakage;

Therefore, Diva is not a model of an electronic circuit and is trivially demonstrated to be distinct.
<snip>

Diva does not have any capability to reproduce effects produced by an electronic circuit.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7#p6215447

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:14 pm

Pompous comes to mind... Today I muted him....he does go on and on and on....

in fairness I don't think he is jealous etc.. I think he just feels the need to be always right.
rsp

Diva vs Analogue - a real world test