!Epoch, for the next 4 years

[Daags]

what ?

[zarf]

guys !!!!!!!!!!!!!

check out createdigitalmusic.com

What are you trying to draw our attention to?... (Beatmaker comes up first for me, then a bunch of other stuff, but not sure what the connection is to !Epoch? What am I missing?)

[Daags]

What are you trying to draw our attention to?

the fact that there is no !Epoch announcement.

Cos it's not gonna be released in 2017.

[zarf]

What are you trying to draw our attention to?

the fact that there is no !Epoch announcement.

Cos it's not gonna be released in 2017.

Too clever for me

[Daags]

You read this (quote below) ... and you have to ask yourself if this has all just been some ruse to keep Loomer from being regarded as abandonware.

Otherwise, how someone can consistently and constantly say 'any day now' type of shit for the guts of 6 years ... is just beyond me.

The whole 'feature creep' excuse doesn't wash either ... in 6 years of legit development, you could be on !Epoch 6.0 by now, or 3.0 ... or 2.0 or whatever .... assuming we're gonna believe Loomer spent 6 years of this development adding features.

Seriously though, I’m looking hard at the year-end special on Numerology.

It also appears that anyone purchasing Numerology 4 now will get a free upgrade to Numerology 5.

Some hint of a finish line would be most appreciated.

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:36 pm
Tell me about it, I can't believe it's mid-March already: at the beginning of the year, I would have happily bet money on the new product being out by now too! Seems I'm much better at coding audio software than estimating timescales.
Soon, my eager followers, soon... !
( We're on the cusp of having the beta feature list locked down: when this milestone is reached, and the final UI polish is complete, all shall be revealed. )

Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:01 pm
Aiming for a public beta this year; we're definitely on the home straight now. I'm working my way through the a short list of outstanding development; unfortunately, I'm also adding to it each time someone suggests a good idea!

Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:19 pm
So we're now feature complete and onto final polish and usability testing. Not long now, my patient followers, not long at all!

Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:51 pm
'fraid so. With the best will in the world, the chances of this getting to beta over the Christmas period is pretty slim. So 2013 it is.

Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:34 pm
I wouldn't like to narrow the release down to anything more accurate than early 2013. It's feature complete in terms of being ready for a beta release, but there is still tidying and improving happening; lots of little tweaks, rather than any grand renovations.

Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:32 pm
Yes: I'm still aiming to get a public build out sometime before the chimes of midnight on January 1st 2014 (and I'm hoping that I don't cut it so close as to still be coding on New Year's Eve!)

Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:15 am
I'm aiming hard to still get it to you this year, and I sincerely hope to get it out this year. It's looking likely: the feature set is more or less locked in for version 1, and so a 2014 release is probable.

Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:44 pm
Thanks. I'm on the home-straight now; I'm confident that I'll have something for you all before the end of the year. I would say, "if not sooner", but I think that'd really be tempting fate.

Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:03 pm
It's looking likely that I'll have a beta by the end of this year or thereabouts, and then aim for a 1.0 release for some point in early 2015.

Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:05 am
It's all bug fixing and usability tidying now - no more feature development for v1 - so things are really looking good for getting it launched.

Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:35 pm
Thanks all for your continuing patience and support in this matter: I can confidently say, 100%, no excuses, early 2015 will see this in all of your eager hands!

Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:02 am
Still aiming for soon, and I can't see it slipping into 2016: there simply isn't much left to do,

Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:03 am
Long before that, my eager pals. By the summer, you'll all be nagging me for version 1.3, I hope.

Sat Dec 26, 2015 3:48 am
So close, you can taste it. I must admit, I didn't hit the coding as much as would have liked over the Christmas break, but I'm back on it full-time now, very refreshed, and ready to fix those last issues!

Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:38 pm
Aiming to release within the next couple of months. Admittedly I'm terrible at deadlines, but by sheer virtue of having little left to polish to get this ready for public consumption, I'm confident.

Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:13 am
At the beginning of the year I totted up the outstanding work, and based on this I'd have estimated completion at the end of February. A few other things - minor omissions that slipped off the development radar - have cropped up in the interim, and so have pushed the date back accordingly, so yes, next few months, March or April, seems likely.

Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:52 am
Thankfully, Zeno's paradox fails when one accounts for the summation of infinite series, hence Achilles (me) will catch the turtle (release this year.)

[firepile]

It is pretty clear now that this thing will never be released.

[colin@loomer]

It definitely will be: I've sunk way too much development time into it to do anything other than release.

This year's been a bit of a stinker for various personal reasons, and development work faltered for a while, but I'm still pushing ahead to get this done. If it was abandoned, I'd say so: I have absolutely nothing to gain by claiming a product is to be released which won't! I appreciate you may be cynical about a release - and I've missed enough release estimates to warrant such cynicism - but in my defence: no-one has paid in advance for this. I still hope to make a release before the clocks strike 2018, but it really depends on how much I get done over the Christmas season.

[ThomasHelzle]

It definitely will be: I've sunk way too much development time into it to do anything other than release.

This year's been a bit of a stinker for various personal reasons, and development work faltered for a while, but I'm still pushing ahead to get this done. If it was abandoned, I'd say so: I have absolutely nothing to gain by claiming a product is to be released which won't! I appreciate you may be cynical about a release - and I've missed enough release estimates to warrant such cynicism - but in my defence: no-one has paid in advance for this. I still hope to make a release before the clocks strike 2018, but it really depends on how much I get done over the Christmas season.

We're here, whenever you are ready
What you showed us is simply too good.
Makes waiting hard...
Hopefully the year ends with an Epochal Big Bang!

Cheers and best of luck for the final stretch!

Tom

[apondinthestream]

It definitely will be: I've sunk way too much development time into it to do anything other than release.

This year's been a bit of a stinker for various personal reasons, and development work faltered for a while, but I'm still pushing ahead to get this done. If it was abandoned, I'd say so: I have absolutely nothing to gain by claiming a product is to be released which won't! I appreciate you may be cynical about a release - and I've missed enough release estimates to warrant such cynicism - but in my defence: no-one has paid in advance for this. I still hope to make a release before the clocks strike 2018, but it really depends on how much I get done over the Christmas season.

We're here, whenever you are ready
What you showed us is simply too good.
Makes waiting hard...
Hopefully the year ends with an Epochal Big Bang!

Cheers and best of luck for the final stretch!

Tom

I agree with Tom - without a doubt the wait has been frustrating at times but that has only been because what we have seen so far looks amazing.

[colin@loomer]

Thanks Tom et al. I'm not offended at all by impatience: I get as rilled up about Half-Life 3 as anyone, and so I fully appreciate how frustrating a wait can be.

To whet your appetites, how would a UI shot taste? (Of which I've cut off the top because I'm literally editing the transport indicator as we speak.)

[VariKusBrainZ]

The amount of time its taken with refactoring and features.
Surely this thing is going to be so deep.

Someone here besides Colin must be using it as it has to be tested, how can they can keep quiet for so long I dont know !!

[ThomasHelzle]

"Architect" - great name

Looks all very good to me - Transport modulation sounds especially intriguing.
Automation on the same timeline as the stepsequencers should be cool to work with.
Very nice to see the help-tab in the module browser - should make it easy to get into things.
I assume this is a rather atomic-view on things in the graph?
Can't wait to see the lua side of things...

Can midi VSTs be used with Architect? Or just Instruments and Effects?

Cheers,

Tom

[colin@loomer]

I think so too.

[Daags]

Looks good Lets hope it sees the light of day ....


FYI, I'm aware there was a 'suggest a name' competition for a free license when !Epoch (Architect) was released ... so when I did a forum search to see who the lucky winner is, I see that it is a user who has disappeared for quite some time. In fact there are threads about him with people worried because they can't contact him.

I hope he's well ... but maybe you should consider giving the still active followers of this monumental development another crack at the prize.

[AZZIN]

This looks definitely good! Colin, please keep going with it ..
Euclidean Rhythm Generator ... promising !!! Algorithmic generative stuff in all its power

Just to know, will this beast be compatible with trusty (Ubuntu 14.04) or should I be prepared to switch to something more recent based on 16.04 (Xenial)?

Thanks,

Alberto