KVR Audio

jivamukti · Post by **jivamukti** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:20 pm

Shiek927 wrote:

Looking at the above video as a reference, you undoubtedly can't get in like Xfer Serum and really change up each individual waveform in the set (or in other words, the "wavetable"). You instead just turn the knob and move through each individual waveform in the set.

On Virus you can set the smoothness of morphing between the waves in a table with the interpolation parameter. You can also use FM, PM and RM on them. Further the formant and grain modes are very expressive and there's little like them in software. Massive's formant mode is similar but not as pleasing.

egbert101 · Post by **egbert101** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:25 pm

PietW. · Post by **PietW.** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:58 pm

Touch The Universe wrote:Where would one find those original waves?

The wavetables of the virus TI come from Waldorf employees.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:03 pm

PietW. wrote:
Touch The Universe wrote:Where would one find those original waves?
The wavetables of the virus TI come from Waldorf employees.

Yeah, i think Wolfram Franke was responsible.

A quick Google search will let you find them, as Serum wavetables.

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:37 pm

Yes I have seen some Virus waveforms online but I never tried them. However, I dont know if people have sampled them correctly. The Virus has a DC offset filter at the end of the signal chain which means it cuts off some low frequencies. If people just simply sample the waves that the Virus outputs, they are sampling filtered waveforms which will not sound exact. The correct way is to reverse the process by boosting those low frequencies with an EQ and then save your waves like that. You can do this if you have a Virus by choosing a low note which you want to sample. Then set the classic osc to a saw. If you look at it with an oscilloscope, you can see that the saw is a little bit bent (and the more bent it will be the lower you go in frequency), because the fundamental harmonic is a bit quieter hence the DC filtering. Then add a parametric EQ, and boost the low end with a low shelf, and play around with the filter bandwidth and gain amount, until the saw in the oscilloscope is straight. Then you know that now the output is "correct". Then you can turn the saw to the waveforms and start recording and sampling.

surreal · Post by **surreal** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:59 pm

What is the release price going to be?

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:04 pm

I have set it at 89€. Its think its a great price for what it can do, and free future updates

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:50 pm

Which virus model is this actually based on?

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:53 pm

Ti, but since many of the oscillator modes I didnt make yet, its more closer to the Virus C

surreal · Post by **surreal** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:28 pm

adamtrance wrote:I have set it at 89€. Its think its a great price for what it can do, and free future updates

It may be a bit steep for an intro price?
What about us that has supported you in the past and bought Jp6k?
And in $?

jivamukti · Post by **jivamukti** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:34 pm

egbert101 wrote:
jivamukti wrote: On Virus you can set the smoothness of morphing between the waves in a table with the interpolation parameter. You can also use FM, PM and RM on them. Further the formant and grain modes are very expressive and there's little like them in software. Massive's formant mode is similar but not as pleasing.
Not sure how many of those features will be in Viper though.

I understood him as referring to Virus.

adamtrance said on last page wavetables won't be in the initial release. At any rate replicating all the modes would be quite an undertaking.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:09 pm

chk071 wrote:
PietW. wrote:
Touch The Universe wrote:Where would one find those original waves?
The wavetables of the virus TI come from Waldorf employees.
Yeah, i think Wolfram Franke was responsible.

Wolfram once told me (when i talked with him during Musikmesse) that he offered help but that Access did not really want the help.

I had owned a Virus TI Mk1 desktop from 2006 until 2015 and personally i liked the wavetables in Waldorf synths more than those in the TI.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:15 pm

Ingonator wrote:
chk071 wrote:
PietW. wrote:
Touch The Universe wrote:Where would one find those original waves?
The wavetables of the virus TI come from Waldorf employees.
Yeah, i think Wolfram Franke was responsible.
Wolfram once told me (when i talked with him during Musikmesse) that he offered help but that Access did not really want the help.

It even says on his Facebook "About" page that he was involved in the Virus Ti development though: https://www.facebook.com/pg/frankemusicgermany/about/

And, according to Moogulator from the german Sequencer.de website, he did the wavetables for it.

Shiek927 · Post by **Shiek927** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:18 am

With regards to my original question, I think I better understand

. The Classic OSC has, not just the classic waveforms, but a number of waveforms that you can bend and shape ala Reveal Sound Spire. Alongside that are Wavetable OSC's which are a completely separate thing which is the offering that is currently not available alongside the Grain and Formant modes.

Amram · Post by **Amram** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:53 am

@adatrance
Couple of months u shout here about not talking about crack audio and here we go in your thread your are not responding to the ti wavetables that post here in your thread.
You are so true person.

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