Unfiltered Audio BYOME

[c_voltage]

1: ...automate the on/off state of the modules (for live use).

+1 (frankly, it's why i slightly embarrassed by new automation macro system, which allow automate just 8 module parameters simultaneously (?), though yes, its useful, but if require more ? As well, yes, some details like on\off become miss due that ability)

[tl]

Would be nice to:

1: ...automate the on/off state of the modules (for live use).
2: ...see the actual values when moving a knob.
3: ...scroll the modules left/right, using the mouse wheel.

+1

[Sampleconstruct]

Transposing grains up or down introduces jitter/zipper noises, I remember this problem from the days when I still used Reaktor granulators. I hope this can be fixed in a future update.

[robbmonn]

the macro automation system is superior to enabling automation of every parameter. if you play around with the plugin you will be able to see why -- allowing one knob to control multiple parameters with different amplitudes and polarities is better than having to map many knobs. you can map a single know to increase reverb length a little bit, open of a LPF a little more, increase saturation by 25% and decrease amplitude by just the right amount to offset the gain increase from the saturation.

In addition, by allowing 8 macros, you can use a standard 8 knob setup to control the plugin (ableton push, etc)

my only gripe is that the labels don't get presented to the host (at least in Live) -- I want my text labels to show on the push to remind me what I'm doing there -- I hope this is in a future version.

This plugin is supreme.. triggering a slight negative pitch shift with an envelop follower followed by a reverb and a BPF with the cutoff frequency also modulated by the envelope follower with a macro set up to attenuate the amp of the envelope follower is the best sounding effect I've heard in years and it all has to do with the subtlety and depth of what the mod system allows. It isn't that I couldn't get this perfect sound with other plugins and Ableton's host automation it is that I *wouldn't* have (and if I had I wouldn't be able to save it and recall it so easily.) I love this thing!

[c_voltage]

the macro automation system is superior to enabling automation of every parameter. if you play around with the plugin you will be able to see why -- allowing one knob to control multiple parameters with different amplitudes and polarities is better than having to map many knobs. you can map a single know to increase reverb length a little bit, open of a LPF a little more, increase saturation by 25% and decrease amplitude by just the right amount to offset the gain increase from the saturation.

Well, yes, i absolutely agree that capabilities of this macro system can be very interesting by itself. I also understand that with such an addition of modules from "nowhere", it is difficult to implement automation via some other way.
But we have features that cannot be automated, and we have a limit on the number of parameters to be automated.
Would be good somehow to solve it.
For example, could increase the number of macro significantly, to solve the probable quantity problem.
But what to do with buttons automation like on\off - frankly, i don't know (and do not even know what to offer, in case of macros ideology).

[chaosWyrM]

no word yet on the issue of multiple instances locking up daws?

my trigger finger is twitching on this buy button....but i cant justify the price if im limited to only 2 instances per project.

even just a "yes we know, well get to it" would suffice.

[ThaTyger]

but i cant justify the price if im limited to only 2 instances per project.

I got a Reaper project with 5 instances, seems fine. I think the main issue was with having more than 2 interfaces open at the same time. I believe it was said that this was fixed (few pages back), I just prevent having more than 1 interface open. Seems to work.

Don't know about different DAW's though.

[ThaTyger]

Further detail: We had some runaway drawing calls that were being updated every frame, causing quite the rendering bottleneck when multiple windows were open, or if our interface was open with something else using a similar rendering pipeline. I ran into the issue really badly a few nights ago while using BYOME with an M4L sequencer. After Josh's patch frenzy, I had zero performance issues with the same project, and this is running with the much slower debug build.

Found the post. After that there where still some people with the issue though.

[thelizard]

Further detail: We had some runaway drawing calls that were being updated every frame, causing quite the rendering bottleneck when multiple windows were open, or if our interface was open with something else using a similar rendering pipeline. I ran into the issue really badly a few nights ago while using BYOME with an M4L sequencer. After Josh's patch frenzy, I had zero performance issues with the same project, and this is running with the much slower debug build.

Found the post. After that there where still some people with the issue though.

Yep! We sent the patch in to the PA QA team last week, but they were able to identify more situations where the issue is occurring. We're working on a more comprehensive fix.

[chaosWyrM]

Further detail: We had some runaway drawing calls that were being updated every frame, causing quite the rendering bottleneck when multiple windows were open, or if our interface was open with something else using a similar rendering pipeline. I ran into the issue really badly a few nights ago while using BYOME with an M4L sequencer. After Josh's patch frenzy, I had zero performance issues with the same project, and this is running with the much slower debug build.

Found the post. After that there where still some people with the issue though.

Yep! We sent the patch in to the PA QA team last week, but they were able to identify more situations where the issue is occurring. We're working on a more comprehensive fix.

ok great thanks...bought.

[JerGoertz]

Anyone have an installer for this? I can't use the PA Installation Manager on my system ATM.

[c_voltage]

but i cant justify the price if im limited to only 2 instances per project.

I got a Reaper project with 5 instances, seems fine. I think the main issue was with having more than 2 interfaces open at the same time. I believe it was said that this was fixed (few pages back), I just prevent having more than 1 interface open. Seems to work.

Don't know about different DAW's though.

Yes, this is reproduce not in all DAWs, as i said i tried in Ableton - did catch the same, but in Studio One all ok.

[chaosWyrM]

Anyone have an installer for this? I can't use the PA Installation Manager on my system ATM.

as far as im aware...there are no installers for this, you have to use the horrendously awful "installation manager". this is my #1 gripe and i almost didnt buy it just because of that.

[justin3am]

the macro automation system is superior to enabling automation of every parameter.

I don't see the two as mutually exclusive.
I love Unfiltered Audio products but the way automatable parameters are handled in Byome has turned me off, I'm afraid. I don't want to second guess their approach but the current implementation is not ideal for my purposes.

My preference would be for the plug-in to present 1024 un-assigned automation parameters to the host and allow the user to right-click on any parameter in the GUI (including Macros) and select 'Enable Host Automation', so that a user can decide which parameters are important to control. Kontakt, Omnisphere and UVI based plug-ins work this way (though Kontakt only exposes 512 parameters). This way you can automate a parameter directly or you can map multiple parameters to a Macro and then automate the Macro.

I love the sound of Byome and the modulation system is fantastic but when it comes to automation, I need a different solution than macros. Sorry guys.

[dangayle]

Anyone have an installer for this? I can't use the PA Installation Manager on my system ATM.

as far as im aware...there are no installers for this, you have to use the horrendously awful "installation manager". this is my #1 gripe and i almost didnt buy it just because of that.

What problems have you had with the installation manager? Have you filed any bugs with PA? It works flawlessly on every system I’ve tried, not to say yours didn’t work.