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Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:36 am

A3ntar wrote:
Lets hope the amp emulations are more authentic than the set of hooters.
LOL@Plexi!

Squids, do you know if the release date has been yet scheduled further down the road?
do you know if there is any distortion pedal?
Do you know if they will use iLok?
( and last but not least ) do you know if that Hardware Interface comes with the AT2? ( for 500$ I sure hope so )

Sorry if this feels like an interrogation......Thanks!

Further down the road? No. All I can say is that it is coming out before the end of the year. Exactly when I do not know. This month? Maybe. November? Perhaps. December? I think it will be out before December. Does that help? I can't give an official or accurate prediction at this point.

It does have distortion pedals. One of them is a Tube Screamer emulation. Go to www.ikmultimedia.com and look at the features of AmpliTube 2 revealed news for more specifics on what it has. Very impressive.

It will not use Ilok but it may use syncrosoft protection. Something this powerful has to be securely protected.

Is the Stomp I/O included with AmpliTube 2? You mean like thrown in as if it was a toy? This is no toy. This pedal board has 6 expression pedal inputs (not a cheap single on-board pedal) and not only is it an audio interface but it also acts as the monitor for changing patches and real-time performance control. So all you need is a CPU (hey you can even get a rack one or use a Receptor) and away you go (even live to a show). Anyway, no Stomp I/O is not a cheap little freebie. Considering that AmpliTube 1 originally sold for $399. and AmpliTube 2 is many, many times more powerful, I think that the price is justified for the software alone. So, figure the Stomp I/O would be an optional thing to get on top of that. What's it worth? Well, what is a high end pedal board plus audio card plus monitor/interface? This is probably less than that. But, it is a very high end system to start with. If it is out of your budget then there may be smaller cutdown versions... who knows? This is brand new!

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:40 am

All right, thanks for answering squids!

Btw, iLok vs Syncrosoft, does one give less headaches than the other?

( a question to the general public )

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:47 am

Is the Stomp I/O included with AmpliTube 2? You mean like thrown in as if it was a toy? This is no toy.

Btw, I never said that it was a toy. I was alluding more to the fact that the Waves GTR comes with it's own DI and is almost price the same. I understand though the StopmIO is a lot more than that.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:50 am

A3ntar wrote:All right, thanks for answering squids!

Btw, iLok vs Syncrosoft, does one give less headaches than the other? ( a question to the general public )

Honestly, those who use ProTools, Cubase/Nuendo and Logic like myself are used to having three different USB keys. It's not that big of a deal really. But, since I use Cubase a lot I like the idea of having my IK products on that same key (which I already have Miroslav Philharmonik). It's fine. It's good to have a USB hub though but those are as cheap as $10.

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:52 am

A3ntar wrote:
Is the Stomp I/O included with AmpliTube 2? You mean like thrown in as if it was a toy? This is no toy.
Btw, I never said that it was a toy. I was alluding more to the fact that the Waves GTR comes with it's own DI and is almost price the same. I understand though the StopmIO is a lot more than that.

Oh, I know. I was kidding about the toy business. I didn't think you really thought that. But, if it was included with AT2 for no extra cost then it would have to be a toy. So, this seriously powerful and cool box isn't cheap but then again... great guitar hardware was never exactly cheap! How much is that Les Paul again?

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:26 am

Lunch Money wrote:Improv,

You realize that the majority of those combos on your list are not tube, I assume?

Most of them are ALSO emulations, but in hardware form. Which is great and all, but since I record more than I 'perform' (and even use the computer just for practicing and jamming around), the flexibility offered by Amplitube2 and its hardware component are about a zillion times the value of some of the amps listed there.

Those Line6 Amps, for example, are just PODXT guts inside an admittedly good speaker cab.

Greg

It was just meant as a list of combo amps.

What type someone gets is up to them-tube or not tube, whatever. Just pointing out that for the money there are other choices outside a $500 computer program.

Whatever

Another nice choice in that price range for recording is the ZVEX Nano-Head:

http://zvexamps.com/amp_view.html

chrisby · Post by **chrisby** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:39 am

From the amplitube website:

AmpliTube 2 will have an introductory MSRP price of $399/€329 for the full version and $249/€199 for the upgrades

Does this mean that it's $249 for upgraders that already own amplitube 1? Just wondering 'cause you can buy the full amplitube 1 with a free upgrade to version 2 right now for the same price which seems kind of strange... Anybody know?

Improv · Post by **Improv** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:04 am

Squids wrote:
Improv wrote: Good maybe, the same no.
That was my point as well.

For the single amp I'd rather have the real thing (like a Vox AC30)

I hear ya. I had a beauty '69 Bassman for guitar. I got it restored to factory spec by an amp tech but then needed the money 5 years later and sold it!

although even then I think I'd still want to have a plug-in that can do it for a variety of reasons

I've yet to find one that I'm satisfied with. I have Amplitube 1, and GreenMachine and have demoed Nomad's Rock Amp Legends and NI's Guitar Rig and Combos. None made me like them enough to use them for guitar. I already own Amplitube and like it for use with vsti synths.

If Amp 2 is a big improvement and sounds great AND has a resonable upgrade price, I may well get it. (See you've probably tried out Amp2, most of us haven't!

) If the price is huge for what you get-forget it. I would rather put the money towards a nice little Vox or Fender Deluxe or even a
Gibson Goldtone LP Jr. Amp
or a Zvex Nano Head.

you likely don't have thousands of amps at your disposal plus everything else in AT2 so from that standpoint it is a completely different animal.

Quantity vs quality?

I'll reserve judgement til I get to demo Amp2.

But, you and I are not arguing.

Not really. There as many different sounds and opinions as there are amps and guitars. The search for the perfect tone continues!

putte · Post by **putte** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:35 am

.. i hope the AU version won´t be years behind again. where can i preorder?

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:09 am

Squids wrote:those who use ProTools, Cubase/Nuendo and Logic like myself are used to having three different USB keys. It's not that big of a deal really.

Except if you have a laptop. I stopped using Cubase SX2 on my laptop because of the damn dongle. (I use eXT now)

Squids wrote:I like the idea of having my IK products on that same key

Which sucks if you want to resell one of the apps on that key: you can't AFAIK...

I've been looking out for Amplitube 2 for quite a while, but I don't want another dongle. I wanna be able to take a train, switch on my laptop, and mess about. An amp sim I can't take with me just like that is not gonna see much use.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:42 am

cptgone wrote:
Squids wrote:I like the idea of having my IK products on that same key
Which sucks if you want to resell one of the apps on that key: you can't AFAIK...

Really? Since you get a dongle with every Syncrosoft-protected product I would have thought it would be easy to transfer the licence back to the original dongle if you want to sell the software.

/Yoss

mondo tormento · Post by **mondo tormento** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:50 pm

Squids wrote: It will not use Ilok but it may use syncrosoft protection. Something this powerful has to be securely protected.

Well, we all know how 'secure' Syncrosoft is...

I'm looking forward to the release of AT2 just like everyone else, but let's not get our hypes up to much. A lot of people think this release is going to be the ultimate amp sim, but it won't. If you want the sound of an AC30 in your recording the only way of getting it is by using a real AC30.

I am fortunate enough to own an AC30 and I use it a lot in my recordings, no amp sim has ever come close to the sound and interaction you get from the real thing. For those of you concerned with volume levels - Vox/Korg will be releasing a new version of the AC15 (with master volume) later this year.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:21 pm

Well, we all know how 'secure' Syncrosoft is...

Why do you seem to be mocking Syncrosoft? It isn't very secure?

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:21 pm

My only concern with the protections is how it affetcs the speed of execution of the program that it wraps.

mondo tormento · Post by **mondo tormento** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:46 pm

A3ntar wrote:My only concern with the protections is how it affetcs the speed of execution of the program that it wraps.

Maybe you're not allowed to discuss these matters here on KVR but I think it's important to bring up. According to the people that cracked the Syncrosoft protection of Cubase SX3 they estimated a performance increase of about 50% without the protection! So, yes that type of scripted protection slows down the application significantly.

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!