Poll: Most Wanted New MU.LAB Feature

[muzycian]

hey Jo,

I've always enjoyed giving feedback to you, especially because you give feedback on the feedback

To bring something up that I mentioned a long time ago, pre Mu.Lab and Luna. I'd love to see an integrated mastering environment in a host. Something where the press of a button and nice mixing/mastering interface is brought forward with integrated tools perfectly suited to the job.

To be honnest: i don't yet see what you mean...

Can you please elaborate.

[sluggo]

To bring something up that I mentioned a long time ago, pre Mu.Lab and Luna. I'd love to see an integrated mastering environment in a host. Something where the press of a button and nice mixing/mastering interface is brought forward with integrated tools perfectly suited to the job.

To be honnest: i don't yet see what you mean...

Can you please elaborate.

it's not really important but more of a concept in the benefits of having integrated features vs. 3rd party plugins. This concept is that the host would have a specific window/layout that is designed for mastering. It could have some of the following characteristics:
- final mix waveform
- spectral visualizer of the final mix
- docked EQ
- docked multiband compressor

I don't know if it would ever make sense to produce the above functionality but I think it would be a nice way to finish/master a mix. You can do it with separate 3rd party plugins but maybe it would be nice to have an integrated layout with specific features/functions made for the specific job. Again, the whole can be better than the sum of the parts...

s.

[muzycian]

Ok, i see what you mean now.

I would just Mixdown (file menu) my finalized track to an AIFF or WAVE file.

Then start a new session, and add that mixdowned audio file to the composer, and put my mastering effects in Rack A.

Then tweak everything towards perfection.

And mixdown this mastered version.

Alternatively, you could even add the pre-mastered audio file into a new composition in the same session, and create a rack that you reserve for mastering, maybe labeled "Mastering!" or something like that.

But i think i would make a separate session in the same folder as the 'source' session. Then that folder contains everything of that track/song: the main session, the mastering session, the audio files, any text files with infos, lyrics, maybe even images that are used when publishing this track, etc...

[Howard]

Retrospective record?

[muzycian]

Retrospective record?

I don't understand what you mean...

[pljones]

It's a "rolling record" option. You turn it on, it buffers the last "n" seconds of audio. When you hit Record "for real", that last "n" seconds is already there. (There's a Linux JACK widget that does it.)

[muzycian]

Ok, thanks for the info.

[Benedict]

It's a "rolling record" option. You turn it on, it buffers the last "n" seconds of audio. When you hit Record "for real", that last "n" seconds is already there. (There's a Linux JACK widget that does it.)

You could use PreRoll Recorder as that is exactly what it is designed for.

http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com/prollrec.html

[ironmic2000]

hi,
i voted for rewire since i think it would add a great and usable feature!
from what i can see most of us use mulab predominantly as a composition tool and traditionally have another main daw like cubase, reaper... (am i right?) or in the opposite direction they have reason and want a good software like mulab to record and mix their track in!

and also think that a multicore support is essentiall since most users want to be able to make big compositions with a lot of instruments and effects and also have a decent computer which has the power to do it, so the software shouldn't be the "needle eye"

what is meant by loop composer, is this a kind of pattern sequencer? that would be great!

but take your time with the features, i think too that making mulab even more comfortable and fun to use is more important then all the special features!

thanks for giving us such a intuitive, easy, great and fun to use music software and for letting the people participate!!

[ironmic2000]

oh i forget! i have a general question concerning the developemnt of audio applications? from what i know it is not too common that developers work together so much, but wouldn't it be possible for example to implement a lighter version of the nice wave editor "wavosaur" as the audio editor in mulab (just an example!) ??

what do you think ?

again: thanks and appreciation to you

[pljones]

from what i can see most of us use mulab predominantly as a composition tool and traditionally have another main daw like cubase, reaper... (am i right?) or in the opposite direction they have reason and want a good software like mulab to record and mix their track in!

Nope, I do everything (except NINJAM) in MU.LAB. I don't want to have to learn more than one application to make music -- I want to concentrate on the music! I like that MU.LAB is simple in what it offers and consistent in how it achieves things.

[muzycian]

oh i forget! i have a general question concerning the developemnt of audio applications? from what i know it is not too common that developers work together so much, but wouldn't it be possible for example to implement a lighter version of the nice wave editor "wavosaur" as the audio editor in mulab (just an example!) ??

what do you think ?

Well, MU.LAB and Wavosaur can already work together very fluently:

In MU.LAB, goto the Edit menu -> Preferences -> Choose External Audio Editor and then browse to wavosaur.exe (or any other audio editor)

Then whenever you're in the Audio Lab, you can switch to Wavosaur (or whatever audio editor you chose) by right-clicking the audio and choose "Edit in Wavosaur".

[MachFront]

Everything I (attempt -lol-) to do, I do in MU.LAB when I fire up MU.LAB, which is about 95% of the time. When I use Orion, I only use Orion.


As far as requests.. I know this was mentioned on another thread recently, but I'm here and feeling lazy, so...
I'll admit it would be nice to at least have the option to lock a plug-in's gui to the top. In my personal way of working, I'd rather have it on top until I tell it otherwise, instead of the other way around, but I realize others may work very differently, so a "Lock" button as part of the VST gui would be nice. (Perhaps right next to the program/preset selector? Right, Jo? )

Jo, just curious, but have you considered at any point putting a Master rack in as part of the standard default? Maybe making it a slightly different size or color or look to easily differentiate? Just a random thought.

[muzycian]

As far as requests.. I know this was mentioned on another thread recently, but I'm here and feeling lazy, so...
I'll admit it would be nice to at least have the option to lock a plug-in's gui to the top. In my personal way of working, I'd rather have it on top until I tell it otherwise, instead of the other way around, but I realize others may work very differently, so a "Lock" button as part of the VST gui would be nice. (Perhaps right next to the program/preset selector? Right, Jo? )

I agree that it should be a kind of preference, i think best per plugin window, and easily switchable. Kind of like in Tracktion...

Will think a bit more on this, also technically.

Jo, just curious, but have you considered at any point putting a Master rack in as part of the standard default? Maybe making it a slightly different size or color or look to easily differentiate? Just a random thought.

I'll update the internal preset for 'New Session' so it includes a Master Rack.

Also, you could save whatever session as New.Musession into your Mulab folder and then that session is loaded when you do 'New Session'

[MachFront]

Right. I figured. I was only thinking of it as a quick "right there, ready-to-go" sort of thing more for folks who were new to MU.LAB and/or new to computer music production.
Then again, if it's made very, easily apparent in the docs and so on, then maybe it isn't really needed. I don't know. Again, it's late (for me), so I'm not at my best right now.