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As a refined aristocrat I shall not stoop to your level of name calling :hihi:

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Some irrefutable facts

Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini

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Marketing speak Slate would be proud of

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AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts

Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
That is a personal opinion, not a scientifically proven fact. Also performance benefits of using fixed vs floating point was valid 15 years ago. Today, those performance benefits are mostly moot. That IS a fact.


You need to stop trolling.

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Well, technically assembler will sound better as you can do more within the same processor constraints .. but that is nothing inherent to assembler. Am I missing something?

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generaldiomedes wrote:Well, technically assembler will sound better as you can do more within the same processor constraints .. but that is nothing inherent to assembler. Am I missing something?
Yes, you're missing something. Using assembler instead your regular C++ to do the number crunching does not change how a certain algorithm sounds if all the same math with all the same data types is being performed!

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AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts

Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
The fact is that Lentini said or wrote that (assuming your quote is correct, of course), not that any of what he claims is true.

If you really believe that quoting someone else claiming something - without giving the slightest proof for this claim whastoever - does make it even just slightly more factual than if you only made that unfounded claim yourself, then there is no point in arguing anything with you. Chances are even a conversation about the Teletubbies would go straight over your head.

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AC222 wrote:
resynthesis wrote:So, if I use /FA on my VC++ compiler to output the assembly language and then assemble it, everything will sound smoother? LMAO, codswallop!

PS I've been writing in various assembly languages since the 80s.
Yes that is correct. Speaking of languages, codswallop? What gives, can’t think of something more creative?
My day job for many years was writing avionics software. If I use this assembler "trick" will our aircraft handle turbulence better?

Creative, nah not me, but how about Fry & Laurie's "sloblock"? Better?

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jens wrote:
AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts

Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
The fact is that Lentini said or wrote that (assuming your quote is correct, of course), not that any of what he claims is true.

If you really believe that quoting someone else claiming something - without giving the slightest proof for this claim whastoever - does make it even just slightly more factual than if you only made that unfounded claim yourself, then there is no point in arguing anything with you. Chances are even a conversation about the Teletubbies would go straight over your head.
:clap: give yourself a round of applause for that filibuster. Now that we are past that, I can see what you are doing. Perhaps you sense that I am in fact right and you are backed into a corner so you are hedging your arguments multiple times over with the assuming your quote is correct bit and not that any of what he claims is true bit. The fact remains that the smart money would be better off placing their faith in the Father of the Modern DAW for Windows than some guy named Jens. Period.

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Nice strawman.

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Does troll take advantage of assembler?

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nordickvr wrote:Does troll take advantage of assembler?
I wouldn’t know the answer to this question but I do know it takes one to know one

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This is a phat machine code 0: O

You really don't need to hear the different to know that there is one.

Assembler gets you most of the way there, but machine code makes the best noise.

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AC222 wrote:
nordickvr wrote:Does troll take advantage of assembler?
I wouldn’t know the answer to this question but I do know it takes one to know one
and it stops here :?
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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AC222 wrote:Some irrefutable facts

Built with assembly language: "In designing all of the SAW product line, I always used integer math throughout the entire mixing engine... I have found it to sound much smoother, in my experience, not to mention the performance benefits." - Robert Lentini
Well, duh! Nice round numbers = nice round sound. Little known fact, those decimals in floating point mercilessly decimate the sound like a bad bitcrusher. I've found that when trying to make things sound like they're underwater, floating point just doesn't work because, well, the sounds keep floating up to the surface. Also, when mixing punk, industrial or noise music with software using assembly language - everything sounds a little too "structured" and well-put-together if you know what I mean. So I put the code through a polarity inversion, transforming it into "disassembly" language to get the sound I need. So simple!

Please go post this in the DSP forum posthaste. :scared:

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