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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
The tools such as the DAW tells you what scale you just did, ok; that's a tool for expression in potential, but it is not through itself doing anything more than detecting a scale. It can be used as a learning tool - suitable for small children in my assessment - but we see people here using it as a crutch.
(I learned it in primary school.)
Then an algorithm sorts your triads out for you; ok, I'm fine with people never knowing better, except we see here at KVR people looking for the same kind of tool and discussing it year after year. Yes, I mean you see the same guy after 4 yrs still talking about a chord builder or whatever.
The thing is, if you need this sort of thing, how is it that you're ready for "composing"?
You need your own skillset. And it's no accident that 'composing' is now called "producing". So in your blurb, you offered some usual strategies for "setting you free to focus on other areas of the production process", and I noticed that. All of a piece, like.
It's no skin off my nose if you're able to persuade however* many people your goal is that this is some new path, but I do feel free to argue the pitfalls of it. But the reaction was down to the ad copy you or someone wrote and presented here (there is a context "here", you're not in a vacuum.). I couldn't even satirize that it's so wild.
* = one word. d'oh
(I learned it in primary school.)
Then an algorithm sorts your triads out for you; ok, I'm fine with people never knowing better, except we see here at KVR people looking for the same kind of tool and discussing it year after year. Yes, I mean you see the same guy after 4 yrs still talking about a chord builder or whatever.
The thing is, if you need this sort of thing, how is it that you're ready for "composing"?
You need your own skillset. And it's no accident that 'composing' is now called "producing". So in your blurb, you offered some usual strategies for "setting you free to focus on other areas of the production process", and I noticed that. All of a piece, like.
It's no skin off my nose if you're able to persuade however* many people your goal is that this is some new path, but I do feel free to argue the pitfalls of it. But the reaction was down to the ad copy you or someone wrote and presented here (there is a context "here", you're not in a vacuum.). I couldn't even satirize that it's so wild.
* = one word. d'oh
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
actually there were indeed 6 reports made on this thread in just a few hours, gotta be a record...and the same people...to the op, no reflection on you but I am locking temporarily as I decide what is appropriate.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
ok I am done reviewing this and posts have been removed any posts not explicitly about the software will be deleted, the author of said post will be subject to further action...if you dont like the promotion then dont buy the product or give the guy some constructive criticism...dont jump down a new members throat and bully him.
Absolutely true far too often here...for the record this thread is an embarrassment to treat a new member here even if you feel his initial promotion was over the top...I took the time to send him an apology on behalf of KvR for the sad behavior of a few.Rewrite History wrote:It's never about which paint or paintbrush, it's always been about the painter and the painting.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 5387 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I'm a bit nervous to step in this, but there are a few dozen apps/plugins similar to this one. Each is based on implicit theories -- about the nature of the human-machine interaction, and about the relative role of the musician and the developer in musical decision-making. With some software the developer has a more creative role (e.g. generative; loops), while with others the composer/performer makes the creative decisions (e.g. the Vangelis video above). I am saying this to encourage the developer to analyse practical "use-cases" to specify this product's USP and niche in the market.
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
At the end of the day, it doesn’t seem like I can get any answer to my technical questions. I will try a third time:IncarnateX wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:00 pm Now, let us talk features, plz. In one of my posts on the former page, I referred to the random parameters beyond velocity of Roland R8 and Elektron’s probability control. Can it do such things or could it be implemented?
Can this software humanize pitch and decay too on drums and maybe even microtiming? Does it have trigger conditions like Elektron gear?
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
I guess this is my answer then since I was the only one asking for/proposing features despite being critical to the promo. As said, I am into man-machine compositions for the time being and use different techs from different units. Now having them all ready in a single piece of software would surely ignite further interest as far as I am concerned.arpado wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:42 pm and took note on some additional features I'll be adding during the next weeks. So, I think it's somewhat good.
You could also look into Beat Step Pro’s randomize principles. It does not change the notes of your melodies but it does change their rhythms. As far as notes concerns, it may octave them up or down or skip or repeat them. This makes the randomization limited to the original notes, so you can take control of possible dissonances, but rhythmwise, it goes banzai and at high randomization and probability levels, it is quite funny, while at subtle level, it adds welcome “accidents” for variation.
- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
In fact, one may obtain the Kontakt Player via purchase of libraries which are licensed to use it and there is no time restriction. A third party library which isn't times out and you have to reload it to continue the demo. "Premium" is not the defining line for the restriction, the license is.
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
Yup. Three ad hominems + a lie from a “new member” who introduce himself as an expert on KVR and no mod reactions? Well, the dev comforting A-kissing doesn’t fool me. Somebody is on a KVR vendetta and getting away with it. Nice troll work, though pointless.jancivil wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:57 am You and I were alright before I addressed some remarks only here to insult and really flame (new member already with beef)
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 26 posts since 4 Apr, 2019
I wouldn't even bothered in reinventing the wheel if that is the case. There are some unique features that I haven't found in any other sequencers or software out there. In fact, fulfilling unattended needs is the main purpose of Arpado. You have the freedom to go thru the website, closely read the Overview and Features sections, including the details expansion. Even though I might be updating all these stuff this week as I'm just applying a few tweaks to the 1st release version.Michael L wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:03 am I'm a bit nervous to step in this, but there are a few dozen apps/plugins similar to this one. Each is based on implicit theories -- about the nature of the human-machine interaction, and about the relative role of the musician and the developer in musical decision-making. With some software the developer has a more creative role (e.g. generative; loops), while with others the composer/performer makes the creative decisions (e.g. the Vangelis video above). I am saying this to encourage the developer to analyse practical "use-cases" to specify this product's USP and niche in the market.
I started playing with MIDI keyboards since I was 10 years old; since then, I haven't stopped trying all kind of music / audio software I could try. My favorite tools were always synthesizers, sequencers and arpeggiators. I own many synthesizers, including the KORG SQ-1 (sequencer), the DeepMind 6, which has a relatively nice and customizable arpeggiator and parameter sequencer built-in. But, there was always something missing IMHO, including the chance to harmonically synchronize all my instruments from one place in a friendly interface, easily, without over-polished materials. By harmonically I mean, having a way to easily orchestrate rhythmic accompaniments, melodies and arpeggios with freedom and doing focus in live improvisation and performance. Also, having the chance to produce generative melodies and harmonies based on customizable parameters I set such as Diminish, Augment. That's something I haven't found in other pieces and if there is something like that, let me know and I'll beat it.
For the other participants here, I'm happy we are now starting to talk about the important things. I'll do my best to go thru all your comments and questions this week. I have to work heavily as I can't wait to deploy the packages so we can start playing and having some fun.
All your suggestions are being helpful, and I'll make sure to implement whatever possible as of now or on next releases.
Best!
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Let your musical ideas flow
https://arpado.site
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
one suspended one barely avoided it, I said stay on topic about the software and people will stop ignoring me when I say thisIncarnateX wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:06 pmYup. Three ad hominems + a lie from a “new member” who introduce himself as an expert on KVR and no mod reactions? Well, the dev comforting A-kissing doesn’t fool me. Somebody is on a KVR vendetta and getting away with it. Nice troll work, though pointless.jancivil wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:57 am You and I were alright before I addressed some remarks only here to insult and really flame (new member already with beef)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 5387 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I went through your website and read your original-first-post, which is why I wrote my comment. I am unclear how the UI layout and design will help users achieve all of your claims. There's a disconnect. That is the reason for my suggestion of specific use-cases as a strategy to show how your software does what you promise. However, because you are experienced, perhaps you should make a few demo videos showing some of the use cases you described in your original-first-post?arpado wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:14 pmYou have the freedom to go thru the website, closely read the Overview and Features sections, including the details expansion.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 26 posts since 4 Apr, 2019
Thanks Michael for your comments.Michael L wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:59 pmI went through your website and read your original-first-post, which is why I wrote my comment. I am unclear how the UI layout and design will help users achieve all of your claims. There's a disconnect. That is the reason for my suggestion of specific use-cases as a strategy to show how your software does what you promise. However, because you are experienced, perhaps you should make a few demo videos showing some of the use cases you described in your original-first-post?arpado wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:14 pmYou have the freedom to go thru the website, closely read the Overview and Features sections, including the details expansion.
It's exactly what's going to happen. There are few videos in the YouTube channel, which are pure developers' test. But I'm planning to deliver a series of explanatory videos as an introductory tutorial. However, this is a flexible tool, instrument or sequencer, whatever name you like. It's more about what you do with it.
Please stay tuned. We're close to release it among with an introductory manual.
Let your musical ideas flow
https://arpado.site
https://arpado.site