Early Pink Floyd

[Sicklecell666]

On a side note, Roger Waters did something like 99% of the Final Cut alone. Although David Gilmore is credited on the cover he only sang chorus on "Not now John".
Not a single guitar note on that album is played by Gilmore.

"The final cut" is my all time favorite Pink Floyd album, followed closely by "The Wall".

I knew that things were pretty bad at that point for the band, but are you sure there's no Gilmore guitar on that album?

That's my fav album over-all as well, followed closely by Meddle & soundtrack for More..

'Biding my time is one Relics, isn't it?





I really need to get back in touch with these roots..

[bluedad]

I never was a big pink floyd fan, but I love "wish you were here"
we saw them in birmingham for the 'division bell' tour.
it was a gorgeous early spring evening, but as I grabbed my jacket I told my wife she'd better bring hers along. she didn't, and I ended up giving her mine later and I was the one shivering.

[Squonk]

On a side note, Roger Waters did something like 99% of the Final Cut alone. Although David Gilmore is credited on the cover he only sang chorus on "Not now John".
Not a single guitar note on that album is played by Gilmore.

I wouldn't argue, 'cos I really don't know, but the solo in "Fletcher Memorial Home" is a damned good copy of Gilmours style if it isn't him

[RWA]

AHA! Another prog-threag going south!:party:

Anyway... I think PULSE is a great live album. Much better then the previous one where every song get's f**ked up by the percussion section.

BUT... the best live registration of PF-songs is actually IN THE FLESH by Roger Waters. That's the best DVD in my collection......... My god that band rules.......

[Landphil]

Am I getting that old? When did Floyd get classified as Prog? They were labled Underground when I first heard of em. Mid 70's they became Rock. Late 70's and early 80's they were AOR. Late 80's and early 90's they were Contemporary. Then they became Classic Rock. But Prog?

[progfusion74]

AHA! Another prog-threag going south!:party:

Anyway... I think PULSE is a great live album. Much better then the previous one where every song get's f**ked up by the percussion section.

BUT... the best live registration of PF-songs is actually IN THE FLESH by Roger Waters. That's the best DVD in my collection......... My god that band rules.......

I saw that concert .. Live at Jones Beach in Long Island... Best show I have EVER seen ..

[agincourtdb]

Squonk????

Shouldn't you be in the Genesis thread????

There's a Genesis thread!?!? where do I sign up?? SEBTP and TLLDOB are both in my all-time top ten. So's Wish You Were Here, to stay on topic.

[brianbrian]

I love Piper, Suacerful, Meddle, ok all of them. Maybe not Ummagumma studio. Corporal Clegg, Let There Be More Light, Saucerful, Echos, Fearless, Lucifer Sam, Careful With That Axe, are all amazing songs. Live @ Pompeii rules as well. I always loved "Bike" too, that shockwave animation is one of the funniest things I've ever seen!

[Alan Lastufka]

The Final Cut is great also - Roger is in my list of top five musicians/bands of all time - including NIN, Radiohead, Rush and Tool.

His solo stuff is genious - can't wait for Ca Ira, yes the IN THE FLESH dvd is beautiful - waiting for the Live In Pompeii to come out in sourround!

[wrench45us]

i still have a double re-issue vinyl of ' a fine pair' of the first two albums. it's in a closet comewhere
even at a time of a lot of oddly edged music, this stuff stood out. ah astronomy domine, bike

long long ago i had some rather odd, but memorable sonic hallucinations on some purple microdot and half a pint of vodka during a lunar eclipse in January in Minnesota at 20 below. Anyway a few weeks after that I heard 'Meddle' for the first time and that was pretty much the same 'music of the spheres' I heard that night. I was pretty blown away. How did they know?

the big thing to understand about the transition from the very early stuff to all that came later is one week Floyd was playing in small clubs and barely making a living within a month they were playing crowds of 4-5000 and money and offers were rolling in. unfortunately by that time Syd was propped up in a corner taking half a day to tune his guitar.

those were the days.

[xoxos]

always found the image of pink floyd as a bunch of ambitious breadhead technical musician types taking advantage of locking someone on boatloads of acid in a closet to get publicity rather easy to take. very self absorbed, like dupont said "can we get a psychedelic band image but make it actually yuppy" like trying to instill an epic scope (eg. sense of self-importance and all that bullshit) to something simple like being alive, and the british sufferance.

f**king new pink floyd rot "let's just keep talking.." to an idiot? yeah, bright idea. it sounds like you're really talking to yourself there cos he radio doesn't have me wanking on guitar for 5 minutes on it.

[Karsten Viese]

Im pretty sure about David not playing guitar on The Final Cut.
Although I cant remember where I got it from so I cant back it up with a link, sorry.

I agree that the guitar solos on The Final Cut very much has Gilmores signature to it. But then again....

I think that Gilmore sings a lot like Roger Waters on A momentray lapse of reason (the first non waters album).

So its not impossible that Roger did all he could on Final CUt to mimic Gilmores style.

Another thing that surprices me was that after hearing Dark side of the moon a million times or more I recently bought the DVD that shows how hey recorded it etc....

Well this DVD tells me that David Gilmore is singing every single line of lead vocal on Dark Side of the Moon. Hmmm... I go listen to it and I'll be damned if its isnt David singing. He is ever listed on the sleeve for vocals.

So things are not alwasy what they seem

[Wopelka]

Im pretty sure about David not playing guitar on The Final Cut.
Although I cant remember where I got it from so I cant back it up with a link, sorry.

i couldn't be 100% sure but i believe Gilmour made some guitar solos on The Final Cut.

Anyway, i think The Final Cut has been mainly made from outakes of The Wall and we can really say that it is Waters' baby. One of my fav, too.

I love all Pink Floyd's works, except the very last album, which is - IMHO - a big fat souless nothing.

Atom Heart Mother is probably my fav. The Dark Side, as a whole, is one of the greatest album ever made (IMHO again).

i'd like to know more about the Roger's opera project. Sounds interesting.

[fake]

You should have seen em doing Atom live in the early days!

They had a replica kitchen on stage, with dripping tap and were cooking eggs and bacon live when the did Alans Psychedelic Breakfast. They even had a motorbike on stage reving it up. And "bike", well you guessed, a pushbike and the sounds at the end were done on it. Drumsticks on spokes etc. One thing they always maintained was that they wouldnt do anything on album that they couldnt do live. Not sure if that was true though.
I freaked out when they did Careful with that axe.....

Trippy days

Now over sadly, and so are Pink Floyd.

fake

[Sicklecell666]

Im pretty sure about David not playing guitar on The Final Cut.
Although I cant remember where I got it from so I cant back it up with a link, sorry.

I agree that the guitar solos on The Final Cut very much has Gilmores signature to it. But then again....

I think that Gilmore sings a lot like Roger Waters on A momentray lapse of reason (the first non waters album).

So its not impossible that Roger did all he could on Final CUt to mimic Gilmores style.

Another thing that surprices me was that after hearing Dark side of the moon a million times or more I recently bought the DVD that shows how hey recorded it etc....

Well this DVD tells me that David Gilmore is singing every single line of lead vocal on Dark Side of the Moon. Hmmm... I go listen to it and I'll be damned if its isnt David singing. He is ever listed on the sleeve for vocals.

So things are not alwasy what they seem

I find this hard to swallow, personally. David Gilmore has such a signature style the way he played acoustic & especially with solos I just can't believe he didn't have tracks on Final Cut. You just can't hum a bar & fake that kind of playing, IMO..the acoustic maybe, but definately not the solo material..

Unless Mike Rutherford did the guitar tracks, but that's a f**king reach & a half

Conversely, I don't question what you say they said on the DVD, but if that's not Waters doing the main verses on 'Brain Damage' I need my frichen head examined..(think about the 'you raise the blade' verse..that's Waters completely..). Gilmore can sound angry really well, but it's an honest anger; he lacks the sarcastic bite Waters laced all his vocals with, not to mention he has a completely different nasal passage I didn't hear much compensation for Waters on Mometary lack of reason, myself..Gilmore just can't sign that way.

I can tell the two apart in the dark, vocally speaking. They have never sounded alike to me, but I could never tell which one I prefered best..probably Waters, cause he appealed more to my own bitterness