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When I checked out there was no place to apply Jam points to the ARC for existing Arc 2.0 users. Just an observation not a complaint. It was priced at $50.00 which was incentive enough for me personally.

Jam points can be applied to the Total Max 2 of which I took full advantage . - Scotty

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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:25 pm We add tax to the MSRP for other countries as well and as legally required, in the US the average sales tax just happens to not be highway robbery like in the EU.
You could still lower the base price for EU residents and especially honor existing customers by raising the Jam Points Limit from 30% to a higher %.
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:25 pm That Total Studio 2 MAX promotion pricing is a historic low price and quite a steal.
Yeah and the reason for that is that Total Studio 3 will come out this year.

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We do honor existing companies with a loyalty program that is used on a majority of the orders placed on our site. We do also give everything away for free but we are a business after all and there have to be limits in order to remain operational as such.

We do not have any news about future bundles but once there is enough value to offer a new version we will likely do so and it will be priced accordingly (not 74.99-249.99).

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Scotty wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:44 am When I checked out there was no place to apply Jam points to the ARC for existing Arc 2.0 users. Just an observation not a complaint. It was priced at $50.00 which was incentive enough for me personally.

Jam points can be applied to the Total Max 2 of which I took full advantage . - Scotty
JamPoints cannot be combined with coupons. Just to make sure I clarify for those who did not realize this, and we do have a full explanation of the JamPoints system at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/jampoints/

Glad the coupon worked out for you, @Scotty. Appreciate having you on board as an ARC System 3 user now.

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renasent wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:37 am
dbender wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:12 am
BennyG wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:54 am Quick question regarding Jam Points: am I allowed to use them in conjunction with the €49.99 intro pricing offer for current ARC 2 owners, or is it an either/or situation?
When I bought that upgrade from ARC 2 this weekend there was no place in the order page to use jam points
Same here, there is no place to add Jam Points.

Also, I have another question. Is the MEMS mic the one that comes with the Iloud MTM’s?
See above about JamPoints and coupons.

Yes, that is the same MEMS microphone so if you have iLoud MTM you can use that mic with ARC 3

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I have iLoud MTMs. Is there a best practice in terms of how to use them with ARC 3? The MTMs have correction built in which I assume is based on the previous version algorithms. So you would technically have two corrective systems stacked on top of each other.

I am wondering if I should update my currently unused ARC 2 license or just leave the MTMs alone and let them do their own thing.
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I'm not sure what would be the point of that? Arc 2.5 is just as good and in the end what mostly counts is how well you know your speakers (mind you that are already corrected). In unbiased approach buying v3 for speakers with built in correction would be pointless.

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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:31 pm
renasent wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:37 am
dbender wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:12 am
BennyG wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:54 am Quick question regarding Jam Points: am I allowed to use them in conjunction with the €49.99 intro pricing offer for current ARC 2 owners, or is it an either/or situation?
When I bought that upgrade from ARC 2 this weekend there was no place in the order page to use jam points
Same here, there is no place to add Jam Points.

Also, I have another question. Is the MEMS mic the one that comes with the Iloud MTM’s?
See above about JamPoints and coupons.
Thanks for the clarification :tu:

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Oh really!?! I never got around to updating to 2.5. I might just jump straight to 3 instead.

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mgw38 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:16 pm I have iLoud MTMs. Is there a best practice in terms of how to use them with ARC 3? The MTMs have correction built in which I assume is based on the previous version algorithms. So you would technically have two corrective systems stacked on top of each other.

I am wondering if I should update my currently unused ARC 2 license or just leave the MTMs alone and let them do their own thing.
One big difference is how iLoud MTM uses a single listening point. One of the improvements in ARC 3 is it's multi-layered measurements. This allows for 3 layers of 7 listening points (ear level, ~6in above ear level, ~6in below), to allow for a more accurate measurement of the room. In particular resonate frequencies and reflects from the ceiling and floor.

Also,there is a lot more that can be done with a full software front and back end especially with regard to some of the more "tunable" features (adjustable correction, 2 phase modes, variable resolution, etc), visual aspects, virtual monitoring, and more.

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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:11 pm
mgw38 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:16 pm I have iLoud MTMs. Is there a best practice in terms of how to use them with ARC 3? The MTMs have correction built in which I assume is based on the previous version algorithms. So you would technically have two corrective systems stacked on top of each other.

I am wondering if I should update my currently unused ARC 2 license or just leave the MTMs alone and let them do their own thing.
One big difference is how iLoud MTM uses a single listening point. One of the improvements in ARC 3 is it's multi-layered measurements. This allows for 3 layers of 7 listening points (ear level, ~6in above ear level, ~6in below), to allow for a more accurate measurement of the room. In particular resonate frequencies and reflects from the ceiling and floor.

Also,there is a lot more that can be done with a full software front and back end especially with regard to some of the more "tunable" features (adjustable correction, 2 phase modes, variable resolution, etc), visual aspects, virtual monitoring, and more.
Can we use the same microphone that came with the Iloud MTM with Arc 3?

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dusted william wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:13 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:11 pm
mgw38 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:16 pm I have iLoud MTMs. Is there a best practice in terms of how to use them with ARC 3? The MTMs have correction built in which I assume is based on the previous version algorithms. So you would technically have two corrective systems stacked on top of each other.

I am wondering if I should update my currently unused ARC 2 license or just leave the MTMs alone and let them do their own thing.
One big difference is how iLoud MTM uses a single listening point. One of the improvements in ARC 3 is it's multi-layered measurements. This allows for 3 layers of 7 listening points (ear level, ~6in above ear level, ~6in below), to allow for a more accurate measurement of the room. In particular resonate frequencies and reflects from the ceiling and floor.

Also,there is a lot more that can be done with a full software front and back end especially with regard to some of the more "tunable" features (adjustable correction, 2 phase modes, variable resolution, etc), visual aspects, virtual monitoring, and more.
Can we use the same microphone that came with the Iloud MTM with Arc 3?
Yes, that is the MEMS microphone for ARC 3 as well.

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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:11 pm
mgw38 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:16 pm I have iLoud MTMs. Is there a best practice in terms of how to use them with ARC 3? The MTMs have correction built in which I assume is based on the previous version algorithms. So you would technically have two corrective systems stacked on top of each other.

I am wondering if I should update my currently unused ARC 2 license or just leave the MTMs alone and let them do their own thing.
One big difference is how iLoud MTM uses a single listening point. One of the improvements in ARC 3 is it's multi-layered measurements. This allows for 3 layers of 7 listening points (ear level, ~6in above ear level, ~6in below), to allow for a more accurate measurement of the room. In particular resonate frequencies and reflects from the ceiling and floor.

Also,there is a lot more that can be done with a full software front and back end especially with regard to some of the more "tunable" features (adjustable correction, 2 phase modes, variable resolution, etc), visual aspects, virtual monitoring, and more.
So, for best performance one would disable the built in correction in the MTMs and use ARC3 instead. And for convenience you would use the MTM's correction since that is "always on".

Love the MTMs btw. Best investment I ever made.
Follow me on Youtube for videos on spatial and immersive audio production.

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We also have a tutorial on multiple tools to enable system-wide support in our FAQ. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/faq/index.php?id=1261
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Thank you! that Pedalboard 2 is an amazing app! and you can save your routing patches as default in combination with system startup (you have to move shortcut to the startup folder)
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I'll pass along thanks to Ryan and the support/testing teams on this one - they put this together while also passing along the many requests for built-in system-wide support.
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Thank you!

[b]also passing along the many requests for built-in system-wide support[/b]

Sweet! hopefully IKM heads will listen to this :pray:

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mgw38 wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:45 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:11 pm
mgw38 wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:16 pm I have iLoud MTMs. Is there a best practice in terms of how to use them with ARC 3? The MTMs have correction built in which I assume is based on the previous version algorithms. So you would technically have two corrective systems stacked on top of each other.

I am wondering if I should update my currently unused ARC 2 license or just leave the MTMs alone and let them do their own thing.
One big difference is how iLoud MTM uses a single listening point. One of the improvements in ARC 3 is it's multi-layered measurements. This allows for 3 layers of 7 listening points (ear level, ~6in above ear level, ~6in below), to allow for a more accurate measurement of the room. In particular resonate frequencies and reflects from the ceiling and floor.

Also,there is a lot more that can be done with a full software front and back end especially with regard to some of the more "tunable" features (adjustable correction, 2 phase modes, variable resolution, etc), visual aspects, virtual monitoring, and more.
So, for best performance one would disable the built in correction in the MTMs and use ARC3 instead. And for convenience you would use the MTM's correction since that is "always on".

Love the MTMs btw. Best investment I ever made.
I really love the iLoud MTM correction too, the cherry on top of everything to me is the software front end for the additional features on top of the more detailed measurement. You could reset your iLoud MTM and try ARC 3 (since you have the mic already) to see if it is good for you using the demo if you'd like. That might be a better way to see which is suited for you because you are right that iLoud MTM are excellent including the built-in correct.

And thank you for the kind words about iLoud MTM, one of my favorite IK products ever made.

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