M8.6.28 beta

[FabBad]

I have no enough words to say Thank you Jo! You are the best!
in a while, i going to use it and if something happends i will post.
Manymanymany thanks

[MuTools]

Thanks. Yes pls do a good test of the reworked shortcut system cause i had to do an important rewrite of some code parts so hopefully no new bugs.

[pljones]

Will there be a MUX beta - I don't remember what's gone in since .17 and whether some of these are needed?

[MuTools]

Will there be a MUX beta

Yes.

I don't remember what's gone in since .17 and whether some of these are needed?

Last updates contain many fixes so yes they're relevant.

[FabBad]

Thanks. Yes pls do a good test of the reworked shortcut system cause i had to do an important rewrite of some code parts so hopefully no new bugs.

Sure, while trying the shortcuts system i can say that is work flawlessly, zero delay in menus.
I'd created a new shortcutlist from the scratch for testing purposes.
However, the "back" key seems to override any shortcut assigned, it's acting like "del" key.
I have tested in the M7 and it does the same behaviour.
That is why i say flawlessly cause didn't found any issue in the new Shortcut system.besides what i describe.
-The other one is a suggested change when assing a new, that is, the system respect the hierarchy, eg. when selected "edit" in DSP sub menu and do a "alt + s" it shows the "...>DSP>edit" not "generic".
It more easy to do and straightforward maybe less messing and avoids conflicts with another SC's.


Another points:
__there's a something strange when manipulate the waveforms in the audiosequencer, it when inthe edge when it propose to shrink or cut, sometimes, when combine with alt key, it shrinks and sometime it cuts. It seems that the system not decide if ["alt+leftclick" and "leftlick"] "cut and shrink" or "shrink and cut" respective. (yeah, i know i try hard to be clear)
To reproduce, do a some changes in the begining or end and alternate with "alt" key pressed.and try with another part.
Edit: What i found, is that there's a snap to zero crossing dependent so, as it shows in the gif, this all the part shifts to the neartest snaping to zero and at the same time the grid.

20201006-2038.gif

So, do has an option where i can deactivate the snapping to zero crossing feature?

__in the audio stream part, there's a strange behavior when i trying to manipulate the beginning of the audio part, it seems to move slightly according the direction that go.
To reproduce, load an audiofile as stream, zoom in the begining, turn off snap to grid and from the edge (when the cursor changes to "<->"), drag to right and left, notice the initial possition of the entire audio part changed.
Note- no always happen, i'm doing a research for this.

__Bug in sample module and his derivatives (sample view), when the audio sample length is <1000samples. After that, the bug manifests when i tweak with the mouse, the sliders of start/loop/end.

[MuTools]

__there's a something strange when manipulate the waveforms in the audiosequencer, it when inthe edge when it propose to shrink or cut, sometimes, when combine with alt key, it shrinks and sometime it cuts. It seems that the system not decide if ["alt+leftclick" and "leftlick"] "cut and shrink" or "shrink and cut" respective. (yeah, i know i try hard to be clear)

For audio stream parts there is no difference between dragging the start/end of the part with or without holding [Alt]. For sequence and envelope parts it does make a difference: When holding [Alt] for those parts it is time stretching those parts.

What i found, is that there's a snap to zero crossing dependent so, as it shows in the gif, this all the part shifts to the neartest snaping to zero and at the same time the grid.
So, do has an option where i can deactivate the snapping to zero crossing feature?

No such option (yet).

in the audio stream part, there's a strange behavior when i trying to manipulate the beginning of the audio part, it seems to move slightly according the direction that go.
To reproduce, load an audiofile as stream, zoom in the begining, turn off snap to grid and from the edge (when the cursor changes to "<->"), drag to right and left, notice the initial possition of the entire audio part changed.
Note- no always happen, i'm doing a research for this.

I think that's related to the zero-cross snapping. Right?

Bug in sample module and his derivatives (sample view), when the audio sample length is <1000samples. After that, the bug manifests when i tweak with the mouse, the sliders of start/loop/end.

Will be fixed in the next update. Thanks for reporting this

[FabBad]

For audio stream parts there is no difference between dragging the start/end of the part with or without holding [Alt]. For sequence and envelope parts it does make a difference: When holding [Alt] for those parts it is time stretching those parts.

yeah, i got it. but, not always is as it, the first gif shows the manipulation without the [alt] key
please explain.

not cutting the start 20201006.gif

a part tweaking affects another 20201006.gif

doesn't ask 20201006.gif

i don't know 20201006.gif

it's drive me crazy sometimes

[MuTools]

I have the impression you're mixing up audio stream parts with sample events.
Please see
http://www.mutools.com/info/M8/docs/mulab/composer.html
http://www.mutools.com/info/M8/docs/com ... mples.html
http://www.mutools.com/info/M8/docs/mul ... ences.html

[FabBad]

Thanks Jo. sorry for being overwhelming. I'm going to go over that.

On the other side, is there a possibility to add a "Edit Value" in every parameter? it seems to some instruments and racks has this.

2020-10-07_181251.png

In MUX seems to be missing.

2020-10-07_181306.png

i don't know if this is a bug or some kind of limitation that requiere a lot of work.
May be in M9.
Thanks.

[bbreakz]

Thanks Jo. sorry for being overwhelming. I'm going to go over that.

On the other side, is there a possibility to add a "Edit Value" in every parameter? it seems to some instruments and racks has this.
2020-10-07_181251.png
In MUX seems to be missing.
2020-10-07_181306.png
i don't know if this is a bug or some kind of limitation that requiere a lot of work.
May be in M9.
Thanks.

Off topic but is this your own mulab skin? I like it

[MuTools]

On the other side, is there a possibility to add a "Edit Value" in every parameter? it seems to some instruments and racks has this.

When a parameter has a value display then simply double-click the value display to edit the value.
In that case the popup menu doesn't contain the "Edit value" option to reduce redundancy.

[FabBad]

Hi Jo. in these days i stumbled upon with some bugy behaviors.
-MuDrum: With shortcut (not related with the new system) Copying-Pasting sampler doesn't works.

doesn't copy sampler player.gif

-in sequencer, after consolidate, the "solo" button doesn't works.

consolidate bug 20201011.gif

-newly added modules doesn't go to front.

modules doesn't go front 1.gif

Hope this helps for make MuLab even better.
Regards.

[FabBad]

Hi, it is normal that Mulab deletes the log file or there's something wrong? i checked the preferences and the error level is set to "All errors".
I realized this cause while viewing in the text editor, when i close the DAW i couldn't reload it.
Or is a normal behaviour when it's not logs errors?

it deletes log files at close.gif

Thanks.

[MuTools]

-MuDrum: With shortcut (not related with the new system) Copying-Pasting sampler doesn't works.
doesn't copy

Shortcut keys rely on the GUI focus cfr http://www.mutools.com/info/M8/docs/com ... tcuts.html
So it's a matter of putting the GUI focus on the complete sampler section. That can be done by clicking the background at the right of the Effect A/B/C slots. If you want to visualize the GUI focus box, see the "Draw GUI Focus Box" preference.

in sequencer, after consolidate, the "solo" button doesn't works.
consolidate bug 20201011.gif

Will be fixed in the next update. Thx.

Hi, it is normal that Mulab deletes the log file or there's something wrong? i checked the preferences and the error level is set to "All errors".
I realized this cause while viewing in the text editor, when i close the DAW i couldn't reload it.
Or is a normal behaviour when it's not logs errors?

Yes it's intended that the log file is deleted when there are no errors.

[MuTools]

MuLab 8.6.24 is available in http://www.mutools.com/mulab/beta/

What's changed:

• Sample displays: With very short samples (below 1000 samples) the Start/Loop/End sliders didn't work as expected. Fixed.
• When consolidating an audio sequence part, the audio lane mute/solo didn't work anymore. Fixed.

How to update MuLab:
Windows: Replace the current MuLab.exe and MuLab.ID by the new versions.
MacOS: Replace the current MuLab.app by the new version.