Why isn't Melda more popular?

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zerocrossing wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:10 am I think it comes down to two things. First, it’s not just the UI that is different, but his entire approach is different. This puts a lot of people off, but I think it’s great. It’s almost like he’s never used a hardware synth in his life and just thought, “well what should a software synth be?”

The second thing is, there’s a trend now to sound “analog” and his synths and effects don’t really sound analog. I don’t personally care, but I can see why other plugins get more attention these days.
those aren't really negatives in the broader sense though. There are plenty of non analog synths that are getting a lot of attention these days, Pigments, Plasmonic, Hive 2, Flacon, Lion etc. etc.

The UI for sure, the PR most definitely.

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Religion is stupid. Change my mind, lol.

Why are you people still discussing after all? What's the purpose besides writing your opinions most people just dislike anyway, filling the forum unnecessarily and writing immature things like "I do not want to talk to you anymore" but still post in this thread?

Use whatever the heck you want to use for production and stop crying, people ... please ... :D

Besides: if there really is the need to tell a company what t could do better, it might be better to directly contact that company instead of writing into a public forum full of haters and lovers. It's controversialy in the end anyway.
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Tagirijus, as this is a public forum, so I guess everyone can discuss what they want 😉
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The problem is, this feels like a loop :lol: This comes up so often and it has not been like that since yesterday but for a long time. The people involved know this and decided to not change anything (which is good for their main customer base and to keep up with their own vision). The thing is: changing something to get more popular means Melda would not be Melda anymore and you also face more popular competition which are experts in their territories. Sorry to say but this would be a battle to lose. Better stay in that niche, do something different and be happy :tu:

How it is now, is how it is supposed to be. No problem with that.

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I still wonder what the measuring stick for Melda's popularity is supposed to be. Can someone elaborate?

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Same reason as Voxengo has. Old, outdated and ugly guis and arrogant / stubborn developer. Sadly.

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chk071 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:56 pmI still wonder what the measuring stick for Melda's popularity is supposed to be. Can someone elaborate?
I would say the Melda Popularity Index (MPI) is s(p)/s(p+n)
The simple ratio of the number of positive statements in posts to the number of positive and negative statements in posts, assuming a sample size (eg pages in a thread) that is statistically significant (>5?) so that all such Melda threads have the same MPI.
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Thanks for the heads up. :D

My MPI is about 92, BTW. ;)

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chk071 wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:56 pm I still wonder what the measuring stick for Melda's popularity is supposed to be. Can someone elaborate?
The same one we meassure the popularity of other devs (or generally products in our daily life). For example there are user votings, there are topics about devs which either tend to be positive or negative, there are recommendations, there are features (on websites, magazines, video channels) which either get the big oooh or the big nooo, there are own experiences which together with the ones of others show a trend, there are sales and marketing, there's the community, there is being represented in like audio engineering schools, ...

You said only the dev will know its popularity. Which I would doubt in that way that he has no reference. He only knows he can make a living of that. But hey, KingOz can do that too :-D

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How would any of us have any idea about it then, if even the dev himself can't tell?

That's the thing.

Don't get me wrong, I get what you're saying, and I agree. But, noone really knows.

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Absolutely. But this is true for almost anything and everything. And that's why it gets back to common sense and interpreting the things we see, hear and experience ourself compared to what we see, hear and experience with others.

I mean if I see a poll about best plugins of a certain type in a 50k fb group and Melda gets almost last place with people writing they're overcomplicated and don't sound musical, then this already is a good indicator. If we do a free plugin mass collab and someone mentions Melda and the group decides against them, this also is a indicator. If users post videos of their productions for feedback (typical screen capture) we can see what plugins are used and get a rough overview too. Sure, sample size of a 50 or 50k people is not the whole world. But these events happen over and over again and in other groups with other users too. So I think a trend for popularity still can be seen then.

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KenjiDeVries wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:52 pm The thing is: changing something to get more popular means Melda would not be Melda anymore...
Myself and many other people tried (2013?) for many months if not years to convince Vojtech to make better GUIs and he did improve them and even showed us some GUIs to choose from. It's even customizable now. It's still not the best GUI on this planet but I cannot expect that he throws his (since university) hard-worked GUI framework in the bin just to have a great anolog-style GUI...

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Being popular is overrated. Sexy cheerleaders are popular and nerds get hated on (as observed in American movies). It's still the same after high-school, apparently. Melda is nerdy and FapFilter is cheerleader material. I'm happy being a nerd and don't need to shake my ass to get approval :D

In my opinion, Melda's UI is the most beautiful with the FModern theme of all the plugins I've seen. I prefer the nerdy hot girl with glasses over the cheerleader with fake boobs :love:

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Unfortunately none of these topics can exist without trying to degrade other companies. Especially pretty disrepectful and bold by saying they are only good for the looks and work on the outside... Maybe this is part too? Maybe this is why some get the impression the melda community and the dev isn't hat great?

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machinesworking wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:51 am
zerocrossing wrote: Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:10 am I think it comes down to two things. First, it’s not just the UI that is different, but his entire approach is different. This puts a lot of people off, but I think it’s great. It’s almost like he’s never used a hardware synth in his life and just thought, “well what should a software synth be?”

The second thing is, there’s a trend now to sound “analog” and his synths and effects don’t really sound analog. I don’t personally care, but I can see why other plugins get more attention these days.
those aren't really negatives in the broader sense though. There are plenty of non analog synths that are getting a lot of attention these days, Pigments, Plasmonic, Hive 2, Flacon, Lion etc. etc.

The UI for sure, the PR most definitely.
Out of those, I’d say that Pigments and Hive 2 have analog modeled filters, and Falcon has analog synths sampled as part of the factory set. Falcon also gets overlooked because if it’s interface approach, as does Lion and I’m sure Plasmonic will when it’s released. I don’t think those synths particularly get more attention than MPowersynth or MSoundfactory, but Pigments and Hive sure do.
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