New Cherry Audio Synth is coming March 15! (Eight Voice)

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MTorn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:10 am
Halonmusic wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:10 pm So.. Oberheim 8 Voice ?
Yep. Mr. Google found the whole user manual on their website, so we can know pretty much everything about it now.

Spoiler warning - it's laid out remarkably similarly to GForce's OB-E. Each SEM available at the same time on screen, with the option to zoom in (onto a pair of them, in this case). You can batch them together to control multiple SEMs with one knob, and un-batch them at will. The control options seem quite well thought out, with a lot of flexibility for splits, layers, unisons, etc.

The SEMS are nearly bog-standard, with the addition of a global LFO, and maybe one or two other things. The problem for me is that I'm never quite happy with ADS envelopes, I tend to miss the R. I was hoping that they would break vintage authenticity (as they do quite often), and give us a full ADSR.
Also, from my reading through the manual, I don't remember seeing any mention of velocity control?

The Gforce one gives you a little more to work with for each SEM. But of course, it all comes down to how it sounds, and as we know, Cherry Audio are a bit of hit and miss in that respect. They can come off a bit flat and generic sounding, without much liveliness or detail. Bizarrely, the one that I think feels quite alive from them is the free Moog Realistic MG-1.
Hmm. Tbh i would rather have an emulation of something that hasn't been done yet. Seems like developers are just copying each other nowadays. I would want an emulation of The Cat or Kitten (hasn't been done yet afaik) or anything KORG < Full Bucket might come out with something new at some point :)
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True, although in fairness, Cherry Audio probably didn't know what GForce were up to (and vice versa).
That's one aspect where the super secretive plugin development environment can backfire, I guess.

I guess that now we at least have two price options - super cheap (Cherry) and too expensive (GForce).
But even before these two, there were Arturia SEM V, and a bit more recently, BX_Oberhausen. Not technically Eight Voice emulations, but Arturia SEM V has a function where you can pick 7 parameters, and cycle them in different ways, simulating the variations of up to 8 SEM modules. BX_Oberhausen does a circuit modeled analog variability emulation, but no control over individual modules.
I haven't (obviously) tried the Cherry Audio one yet, but I think that among all of these, the Arturia way is my preference. Why Arturia hasn't implemented a unison mode yet is a mystery though.

There aren't all that many big flagship analogs left to emulate, so I agree, bring us some more weird, quirky small (or big) machines, like Full Bucket does. I'm hoping that he will go the Cherry Audio route, and put out some more polished, inexpensive commercial instruments.

A Cat or a Kitten would be great!

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MTorn wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:10 amand as we know, Cherry Audio are a bit of hit and miss in that respect. They can come off a bit flat and generic sounding, without much liveliness or detail. Bizarrely, the one that I think feels quite alive from them is the free Moog Realistic MG-1.
I suspect the MSF modelled Oberheim filters will make a big difference

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agree with Halonmusic and MTorn, would love to see more obscure, quirky emulations coming.

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I love the SEM V (along with the entire vintage collection) but really only use it as a monosynth.
I've unfortunately never felt like the 6 editable parameters in the Voice-Programmer were enough, out of a total of 24-25 between knobs and switches in a SEM module, and also considering 2 out of 6 are generally already taken by 'level' and 'panning'.
For the same reason, although I used to be bothered by the lack of unison mode, I later realized I wouldn't have felt satisfied anyway, if simply added to the current architecture.

The only way to provide an Eight Voice experience for a software emulation is having every single control parameter of the SEM modules exposed, possibly on a single page, like GForce and Cherry did.

Cherry has very good drag-and-drop GUI resizing, so adapting the 8-SEM view to near to full screen should be fast and easy for everyone.

I also would expect this to be MPE compatible.

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you guys think theare goin for THIS one?:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/sites/defau ... 4voice.jpg

just with eight voices?
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Yes, aka Eight Voice.


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anttimaatteri wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:39 pm you guys think theare goin for THIS one?:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/sites/defau ... 4voice.jpg

just with eight voices?
Kind of; they're emulating the Oberheim Eight Voice, like GForce just did. Oberheim did models with 2, 4, or 8 SEMs; I tried one of the Eight Voice models in a music store in Boston back in the Seventies.
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Also not an 8 voice emu, but with a nice UI for configuring the voices individually is Synapse's Obsession. I can't get enough of the hazy pads you can get with per-voice differences there. Makes me want per-voice automation possible for all parameters on all my synths (like MPE but for all parameters...)

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So it looks like... no mention of MPE or even poly-aftertouch.

Great.

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anttimaatteri wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:39 pm you guys think theare goin for THIS one?:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/sites/defau ... 4voice.jpg

just with eight voices?
anttimaatteri wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:39 pm you guys think theare goin for THIS one?:

<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">http://www.vintagesynth.com/sites/defau ... .jpg</span>

just with eight voices?
Ugh, how boring. Repeat, repeat same old, same old. Give us something never been done before for gods sake!
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There hasn't been a single Eight Voice emulation in the market until 2 weeks ago (and that turned out to be Mac-only), just SEM emulations with extended polyphony and no real control on independent modules/voices.
This one and OB-E have a pretty unique sound design workflow/potential compared to anything else around, especially for unison patches.

You're talking as if we're in for another Minimoog emulation.

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Well can't say the SEM is very interesting anyway :shrug:
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Halonmusic wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:55 pm Well can't say the SEM is very interesting anyway :shrug:
its a nice filter :)
that resonance :love: :hihi:
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