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fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:00 pm

nominil wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:55 pm
fmr wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:34 pm
nominil wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:24 pm Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere and I missed it: Is FM Lab a standalone version of Halion 7's FM Zone? That's the impression I get but am not sure. I'm really only interested in that as I don't use samples much.
FM Lab is a library of presets entirely made using the FM part of the current HALion engine. It doesn't work standalone, only inside HALion (and HALion Sonic, I presume).
That's what the blurb on Synth Anatomy seemed to say, but the page on Steinberg's site makes it look like a standalone, fully-programmable instrument: https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/fm-lab/

What is shown in that video is HALion (or HALion Sonic) running the library. The controls are from the Library Macro (that's what makes it "FM Lab"). What I can't tell you is if you are able to create presets using just FM Lab running in HALion Sonic. But it may be the case.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:10 pm

billcarroll wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:34 pmFrom the videos posted by Steinberg ...

HALion 7 Spectral Zone

Tis is not the same part that I'm showing, which is the regular sample zone Sample tab.

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:18 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:10 pm
billcarroll wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:34 pmFrom the videos posted by Steinberg ...

HALion 7 Spectral Zone

Tis is not the same part that I'm showing, which is the regular sample zone Sample tab.

ok, so this should be what you're looking for from HALion 7

I don't think there is any improvement.

Yadrichik_Chaya · Post by **Yadrichik_Chaya** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:20 pm

fmr wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2023 2:44 pm • Additional new features: 10 new effects, Decompose, X-LFO, Chord export from Trigger Pads, impulse response import and the new Oscilloscope

This can only mean that in a future update there will be something just like DrumGAN found in Backbone!

With ”SoundGAN” (<— I just made that word up

) we will be able to create alterations of the samples we feed Halion! This will be great for creating super-expressive instruments with tons of round-robins from just a single sample.

Halion 7 is already doing a great job when it comes to this, as seen in the new demo videos, but with something like the Backbone feature DrumGAN added to Halion it will be even better!

tekknovator · Post by **tekknovator** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:33 pm

nominil wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:24 pm Sorry if this has already been answered elsewhere and I missed it: Is FM Lab a standalone version of Halion 7's FM Zone? That's the impression I get but am not sure. I'm really only interested in that as I don't use samples much.

Yes, kinda. It is wrapped in a macro page for easier access to effects, modulation and other parameters. It works inside the free halion sonic 7.
Also, halion sonic 7 has a free subtractive synth built in

:

And there are also some nice free pianos shown here at the bottom:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:36 pm

tekknovator wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:33 pm Yes, kinda. It is wrapped in a macro page for easier access to effects, modulation and other parameters. It works inside the free halion sonic 7.
Also, halion sonic 7 has a free subtractive synth built in :
And there are also some nice free pianos shown here at the bottom:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/

I think what he was trying to clarify is if it would allow the creation of user presets, as any regular synth. Inside HALion I know I can, but is it possible also inside the free HALion Sonic 7?

tekknovator · Post by **tekknovator** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:39 pm

My link is not accepted. I registered years ago for my halion instrument but kvr says I just recently registered

tekknovator · Post by **tekknovator** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:42 pm

Looks good:

nominil · Post by **nominil** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:43 pm

fmr wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:36 pm
tekknovator wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:33 pm Yes, kinda. It is wrapped in a macro page for easier access to effects, modulation and other parameters. It works inside the free halion sonic 7.
Also, halion sonic 7 has a free subtractive synth built in :
And there are also some nice free pianos shown here at the bottom:
https://www.steinberg.net/vst-instruments/halion/sonic/
I think what he was trying to clarify is if it would allow the creation of user presets, as any regular synth. Inside HALion I know I can, but is it possible also inside the free HALion Sonic 7?

Right on. That's what I was trying to understand. I'm going to contact Steinberg to verify after I look over the manual for FM Lab.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:45 pm

billcarroll wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:18 pmok, so this should be what you're looking for from HALion 7

I don't think there is any improvement.

That IS an improvement. Look at all those tiiiiiny icons in my screenshot. They're not there. So they reshuffled the layout. Nice!

audenso · Post by **audenso** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:48 pm

Upgraded to HALion 7 a few hours ago and I’m currently exploring the new features in this major version. For what I’ve already seen this upgrade is significant. I’m very surprised by the FM lab.

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:03 pm

EvilDragon wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:45 pm
billcarroll wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:18 pmok, so this should be what you're looking for from HALion 7

I don't think there is any improvement.
That IS an improvement. Look at all those tiiiiiny icons in my screenshot. They're not there. So they reshuffled the layout. Nice!

I'm glad there is an improvement

I'm sure you've used HALion way more than I have. It still feels like Steinberg has a long way to go to modernize the UI.

Sampleconstruct · Post by **Sampleconstruct** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:04 pm

FM Lab is a very cool FM synth indeed and the new spectral resynthesis is an improved version of the engine found in Padshop. Great update!

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:07 pm

marina wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:48 pm Upgraded to HALion 7 a few hours ago and I’m currently exploring the new features in this major version. For what I’ve already seen this upgrade is significant. I’m very surprised by the FM lab.

It's cool you can load sysex files for TX81Z and DX7, etc.

3ptguitarist · Post by **3ptguitarist** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:36 pm

How's the wavetable synthesis and the overall sound coming out of Halion 7 compared to other popular VSTs such as ones from u-he and Dune 3?