Zebralette 3 Oscillator Effects Discussion

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JoeLowery215 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:53 pm
I think adding “steps” to the waveforms would essentially sound and function like sample rate reduction , or S&H
Posterize can add quantization to the morphing curve (not to an individual waveform)

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NeonBuddha wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:19 am
JoeLowery215 wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:59 pm I always thought it was interesting Zebra doesn’t have a Bend osc Fx or a Quantize osc fx.

The quantize Fx could be used to replicate the PPG.

Any hopes of adding these?
If by bend FX you mean the phase bending things in e.g. serum and vital, Zebralette 3 not only has them, but it has something much better! Rephase-submode in map-o-matic osc fx allows you to do those processes with a freely defineable curve, which you can also morph in real time! It can easily recreate and customize the familiar bend algorithms in something like serum (bend, asym, mirror), but also do super crazy things with the concept that other synths can only dream about :love:

As for quantize, the map-o-matic modes should be able to do something in that direction with e.g. "stepped" saw-wave curves but I'm not sure if actual bit or sample rate reduction is possible.
If new osc fx are to be added at some point, quantize (particularly sample rate-reduction-like) is high on my wishlist too :pray:

Tldr: map-o-matic eats warp-modes in other synthesizers for breakfast
ok I tried it and you can def do the S&H sample rate reduction effect by using a stepped guide!

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I think we should still have access to a Phase knob, unless this will be in Zebra 3

You can get a lot of different osc shapes using different Phase positions

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JoeLowery215 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:32 am
NeonBuddha wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:19 am
JoeLowery215 wrote: Mon Jun 17, 2024 7:59 pm I always thought it was interesting Zebra doesn’t have a Bend osc Fx or a Quantize osc fx.

The quantize Fx could be used to replicate the PPG.

Any hopes of adding these?
If by bend FX you mean the phase bending things in e.g. serum and vital, Zebralette 3 not only has them, but it has something much better! Rephase-submode in map-o-matic osc fx allows you to do those processes with a freely defineable curve, which you can also morph in real time! It can easily recreate and customize the familiar bend algorithms in something like serum (bend, asym, mirror), but also do super crazy things with the concept that other synths can only dream about :love:

As for quantize, the map-o-matic modes should be able to do something in that direction with e.g. "stepped" saw-wave curves but I'm not sure if actual bit or sample rate reduction is possible.
If new osc fx are to be added at some point, quantize (particularly sample rate-reduction-like) is high on my wishlist too :pray:

Tldr: map-o-matic eats warp-modes in other synthesizers for breakfast
ok I tried it and you can def do the S&H sample rate reduction effect by using a stepped guide!
Great to hear that it worked! :tu:
Been too busy for some days to properly test the idea myself yet.
This thing is such a deep rabbit hole. Way ahead of the curve stuff and still just a small taste of what's to come :hyper:

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pdxindy wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:34 pm
JoeLowery215 wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:53 pm
I think adding “steps” to the waveforms would essentially sound and function like sample rate reduction , or S&H
Posterize can add quantization to the morphing curve (not to an individual waveform)

Thanks! What do you mean to the morphing curve but not to the waveform?

Won’t that then affect the waveform?

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JoeLowery215 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:16 pm Thanks! What do you mean to the morphing curve but not to the waveform?

Won’t that then affect the waveform?
When you morph between say 2 waveforms, Posterize quantizes the steps from one waveform to the next based on the Trigger Source you select. If you select LFO1 and LFO1 is set to 1/8th notes, then Posterize will quantize in steps 1/8th in length.

If you are only using a single waveform and not morphing between waveforms, then Posterize does nothing.

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How to make binaural sounds, when we cannot tune this thing in Hz?
artie fichelle sounds natural

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Artie Fichelle wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:22 am How to make binaural sounds, when we cannot tune this thing in Hz?
Hehehe, this is a requirement I have never heard of before. What exactly do you need to be tuned in Hertz?

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Urs wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 10:17 am
Artie Fichelle wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:22 am How to make binaural sounds, when we cannot tune this thing in Hz?
Hehehe, this is a requirement I have never heard of before. What exactly do you need to be tuned in Hertz?
I wonder if the question is related to binaural beats, instead of actual binaurality

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Of course I meant binaural beats. The idea behind is to create alpha and beta waves, that are from 5 to 9 Hz. These waves can bring your mind in a state of peace. Problem, we cannnot hear these waves, they are to low. But then I for example apply 2 oscillators one tuned 75 Hz, the other 80 Hz, and pan one oscillator to the left, the other to the right, and listen th that on earphones, your mind perceives the difference, alas the 5 Hz.
artie fichelle sounds natural

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I applied that method of panning as descrived above with Reasons FM synth algorithm, that lets you do that. These sounds are 1000 times better, than than the ones without.
artie fichelle sounds natural

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Now, since nobody answered, I will use plain German to what I mean.
Hallo Urs, wird es in Zebra 3 möglich sein, 2 Oszillatoren so zu stimmen, dass ich die Differenz der jeweiligen in Hertz bestimmen kann?
Das wäre gut für binaurale Sounds. Ich hoffe, dass ich nicht während der Ferien störe.
Vielen Dank
Artifichelle aka Orpheus.
artie fichelle sounds natural

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If my concept works out, then yes.

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JoeLowery215 wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2024 12:48 am You can get a lot of different osc shapes using different Phase positions
Not with a single oscillator synth (unless I'm missing some trick). The oscillators in Z3 will of course have a Phase parameter.

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Hey Urs? How about a detune offset for the modulator in DeltaX so you can create unison/metallic/dissonant type effects?

One feature I want in Zebra2 is to be able to add feedback to the FMO.

WIth Zebralette3 you CAN do this which is amazing, but you can't detune the modulator, so it's a bit more limited.

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