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[Warmonger]

Actually, Quicktime Alternative is not an enhanced media player. It's basically the QT codecs, without the Quicktime Player. The media player included with Alternative is Media Player Classic, which is my primary video player. MPC also works in place of Real Player.

[aMUSEd]

That's what I meant by Media Player Classic - its like a souped up media player in terms of support for formats but without the useless bells and whistles they introduced with Media player 9 (hence "Classic")

[lalo]

Thanks Beno.

Can you just confirm how the send/return setup works with regard to Freeze function (which I am assuming is largely unchanged?). Thanks!

I hope instead that the freeze function will be changed to support volume/pan changes and further filter inserting on the actual freezed tracks
let's see
..quicktime is ok for me
lalo

[IIRs]

I hope instead that the freeze function will be changed to support volume/pan changes and further filter inserting on the actual freezed tracks

It already has.. its called "Render".

[cbit]

render is quite different to freeze

[bastien]

render is quite different to freeze

yes, you can change the volume/pan and add filters to a rendered track...

[haydxn]

are there not converters out there to convert the fininshed QT movie to ....well wotever format we want?

i think you misunderstand the situation.

you won't need to convert the finished movie from QT to something else, because you won't be making a movie in tracktion. you'll be making the soundtrack to the QT file in tracktion.

the only conversion you'll need to do is to convert the original movie to QT if it isn't already in that format. when you've finished the soundtrack, you'll mix it with the original 'final' video file.

[cbit]

render is quite different to freeze

yes, you can change the volume/pan and add filters to a rendered track...

what i was getting at is that you can unfreeze a frozen track

[headquest]

Thanks Beno.

Can you just confirm how the send/return setup works with regard to Freeze function (which I am assuming is largely unchanged?). Thanks!

I hope instead that the freeze function will be changed to support volume/pan changes and further filter inserting on the actual freezed tracks
let's see
lalo

Yeah a good point. Sonar has a freeze where you can select the degree of freeze to suit your need at the time.

It would be very useful to freeze tracks but still mix them

[headquest]

Freeze vs. Render - pros and cons, I think...

Generally I think that Freeze is most useful when you are still working on putting tracks together...

...Then when you come to mix down the finished track it's a good idea to un-freeze each track in turn and render it so that you can release the volume/pan/etc for working on the final mix.

Is this how others work?

[haydxn]

i never use freeze,

i always use render, but RENDER AND ADD, and i mute/disable the source track. i label my source tracks with a 'SRC' suffix, and shrink them down so they don't take up so much screen space, and plonk them at the bottom of the track view.

that way, i can just expand it and reactivate it if i want to do more with the original stuff, and i am also able to operate on the rendered wav file with standard audio editing style (and putting filters on individual clips cut out from it, which isn't possible in freeze or the original, depending on what form it took and how many plugins were on that track)

[IIRs]

Is this how others work?

Pretty much, yeah.

I use a lot of sub-groups however, often ending up with a whole mix grouped down to eg: "Drums n Bass" and "Everything Else". so sometimes I freeze "Everything Else" while working on drums & vice versa..

[lalo]

Freeze vs. Render - pros and cons, I think...

Generally I think that Freeze is most useful when you are still working on putting tracks together...

...Then when you come to mix down the finished track it's a good idea to un-freeze each track in turn and render it so that you can release the volume/pan/etc for working on the final mix.

Is this how others work?

for my workflow mixing is at the same time tracking
and viceversa...so a flexible freeze is a great thing for me
lalo

[cbit]

for my workflow mixing is at the same time tracking
and viceversa...so a flexible freeze is a great thing for me

same over here.

[headquest]

i never use freeze,

i always use render, but RENDER AND ADD, and i mute/disable the source track. i label my source tracks with a 'SRC' suffix, and shrink them down so they don't take up so much screen space, and plonk them at the bottom of the track view.

that way, i can just expand it and reactivate it if i want to do more with the original stuff, and i am also able to operate on the rendered wav file with standard audio editing style (and putting filters on individual clips cut out from it, which isn't possible in freeze or the original, depending on what form it took and how many plugins were on that track)

That's a clever solution . I'm going to try it out!