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pekbro wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:48 am
V0RT3X wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:13 am Anyone else amazed that this has no latency even when pushed to the extreme ?
Yeah, that seems odd. You would think, in the least, the lookahead in the standard compressor should
produce some latency. Doesn't seem to though. :shrug:
... very strange indeed.
no latency is reported to the host although lookahead is in use.

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dangayle wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:17 pm
chaosWyrM wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:53 pm
JerGoertz wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:09 pm Anyone have an installer for this? I can't use the PA Installation Manager on my system ATM.

as far as im aware...there are no installers for this, you have to use the horrendously awful "installation manager". this is my #1 gripe and i almost didnt buy it just because of that.
What problems have you had with the installation manager? Have you filed any bugs with PA? It works flawlessly on every system I’ve tried, not to say yours didn’t work.
+1
PA's installation manager is one of the easiest to use, I've never had an issue with it.

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dangayle wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:17 pm
chaosWyrM wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:53 pm
JerGoertz wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 5:09 pm Anyone have an installer for this? I can't use the PA Installation Manager on my system ATM.

as far as im aware...there are no installers for this, you have to use the horrendously awful "installation manager". this is my #1 gripe and i almost didnt buy it just because of that.
What problems have you had with the installation manager? Have you filed any bugs with PA? It works flawlessly on every system I’ve tried, not to say yours didn’t work.
i made a list of issues i had with it earlier in this thread...but really, its more the fact that were forced to use it at all and less that its buggy. even if as you say, it worked flawlessly, its a pointless bit of software that doesnt benefit the user in the slightest... but lets not start that up again. :wink:
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Saw the dev response re: updates to gui. :tu:
Has there been any mention up or down re: host automation..?
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robbmonn wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:40 pm the macro automation system is superior to enabling automation of every parameter. if you play around with the plugin you will be able to see why -- allowing one knob to control multiple parameters with different amplitudes and polarities is better than having to map many knobs. you can map a single know to increase reverb length a little bit, open of a LPF a little more, increase saturation by 25% and decrease amplitude by just the right amount to offset the gain increase from the saturation.

In addition, by allowing 8 macros, you can use a standard 8 knob setup to control the plugin (ableton push, etc)

my only gripe is that the labels don't get presented to the host (at least in Live) -- I want my text labels to show on the push to remind me what I'm doing there -- I hope this is in a future version.

This plugin is supreme.. triggering a slight negative pitch shift with an envelop follower followed by a reverb and a BPF with the cutoff frequency also modulated by the envelope follower with a macro set up to attenuate the amp of the envelope follower is the best sounding effect I've heard in years and it all has to do with the subtlety and depth of what the mod system allows. It isn't that I couldn't get this perfect sound with other plugins and Ableton's host automation it is that I *wouldn't* have (and if I had I wouldn't be able to save it and recall it so easily.) I love this thing!
Audio sample pls.

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robbmonn wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:40 pm the macro automation system is superior to enabling automation of every parameter. if you play around with the plugin you will be able to see why -- allowing one knob to control multiple parameters with different amplitudes and polarities is better than having to map many knobs. you can map a single know to increase reverb length a little bit, open of a LPF a little more, increase saturation by 25% and decrease amplitude by just the right amount to offset the gain increase from the saturation.

In addition, by allowing 8 macros, you can use a standard 8 knob setup to control the plugin (ableton push, etc)

my only gripe is that the labels don't get presented to the host (at least in Live) -- I want my text labels to show on the push to remind me what I'm doing there -- I hope this is in a future version.

This plugin is supreme.. triggering a slight negative pitch shift with an envelop follower followed by a reverb and a BPF with the cutoff frequency also modulated by the envelope follower with a macro set up to attenuate the amp of the envelope follower is the best sounding effect I've heard in years and it all has to do with the subtlety and depth of what the mod system allows. It isn't that I couldn't get this perfect sound with other plugins and Ableton's host automation it is that I *wouldn't* have (and if I had I wouldn't be able to save it and recall it so easily.) I love this thing!
Agree 100%. I brought up the labels thing too - this is essential. There is a risk that presenting too many automation targets to the host will just make it a pain to map, I hope UA don't go too far in the wrong direction due to people not getting the usefulness of this.

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tl wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:51 pm
pekbro wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:48 am
V0RT3X wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:13 am Anyone else amazed that this has no latency even when pushed to the extreme ?
Yeah, that seems odd. You would think, in the least, the lookahead in the standard compressor should
produce some latency. Doesn't seem to though. :shrug:
... very strange indeed.
no latency is reported to the host although lookahead is in use.
Hmm I wonder that’s a bug or just UA programming voodoo
:borg:

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Flageolet guitar (sampled -> Alchemy) processed by a fresh BYOME preset which combines two different delay modules, pitch shifting, chorus, reverb, plenty of modulators. Track starts dry and ends wet, some Macro automation on the reverb mix-Macro at the end as well.

https://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/ ... e-multi-fx

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Speaking of latency, I've had a weird issue where reloading a patch with the Pitch Shifter induces a significant amount of latency that doesn't appear to be present when setting up the original patch. I'm aware of the natural latency induced by using a large size setting on the Pitch Shifter but I think this is an unrelated issue. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

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Yes pitch shifter is mostly unusable due to latency

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V0RT3X wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:50 am
tl wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:51 pm
pekbro wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:48 am
V0RT3X wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:13 am Anyone else amazed that this has no latency even when pushed to the extreme ?
Yeah, that seems odd. You would think, in the least, the lookahead in the standard compressor should
produce some latency. Doesn't seem to though. :shrug:
... very strange indeed.
no latency is reported to the host although lookahead is in use.
Hmm I wonder that’s a bug or just UA programming voodoo
If I could program time travel, I would be in a more lucrative industry :lol:

It's a reported bug. We're working on that immediately after the GUI performance issue fixes get approved.

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robbmonn wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:40 pm the macro automation system is superior to enabling automation of every parameter. if you play around with the plugin you will be able to see why -- allowing one knob to control multiple parameters with different amplitudes and polarities is better than having to map many knobs. you can map a single know to increase reverb length a little bit, open of a LPF a little more, increase saturation by 25% and decrease amplitude by just the right amount to offset the gain increase from the saturation.

In addition, by allowing 8 macros, you can use a standard 8 knob setup to control the plugin (ableton push, etc)
I agree with the macro knobs. However, for such a plugin, 8 is a way too little amount of knobs to play around with. I would like to see a + sign to add more macro controls. It is really my only gripe with this great plugin; the amount of macro controls. I have multiple projects where i had to load a second instance because i needed 3 (and more) controls to change 1 parameter over time. Which isn't possible now.

OW and the lack of SAMPLE length in the grain module.
It would be awesome to be able to set the restart speed of recorded grain samples (timed and Hz). I mean, the buffer length

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Sampleconstruct wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:16 pm Transposing grains up or down introduces jitter/zipper noises, I remember this problem from the days when I still used Reaktor granulators. I hope this can be fixed in a future update.
I now found the cause for the jitter/zipper noise, it's introduced by the “Spread“ and “P Dev“ parameters, not by transposing the grains. So as it is now, Spread is unusable.

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I'm having problems sometimes with Agc producing audible glitchy peaks on the first audio input. Is this known?

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Processing a glass harp improvisation (recorded today) with BYOME using a custom preset which combines granular synthesis, frequency shifting, tape delay, lowpass filtering, chorus and reverb. Tweaking the installed Macros on the fly. Video starts dry.


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