Polyphonic Guitar to MIDI VST/AU "MIDI Guitar"- BETA TEST
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- KVRist
- 114 posts since 5 Jan, 2013 from Exeter, Devon UK
I can no longer tolerate this, this thread has been highjacked for a pissing contest. Im'e out
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- Banned
- 147 posts since 4 Feb, 2012 from Carolina Beach
Yes, I'm out too I believe. I can't take any more of this constant harassment behavior. JamOrigin needs a forum he can control.
AdmiralQuality, you don't understand what we were talking about here because you are too busy posting insults and the like. Further, none of it was directed at you! Now, bugger off!
To the two I was actually trying to communicate with, Kaspar and ironhead. I figured it out -- at least theoretically workable with very rare errors. Actually, in theory none. It's not that incredibly difficult. Overtone series are unique to each and every note, especially IF the machine can distinguish as separate from the whole note they are sounding within the volumes (if detecting the audio) or the velocities of these (if detecting input already converted to MIDI). Not saying this is what's used here -- if he's smart he'll keep the coding for this buried in a steel vault somewhere! This is my analysis. Assuming the fundamental and all overtones within a reasonable range of volume/velocity can be detected, the only time there could be problem -- i.e., an error -- would be octaves sounding first and foremost and a few very rare situations. I'll explain with octaves for simplicity's sake: one note plays along with the note an octave above. They would have an identical overtone series EXCEPT that the fifth of the lower note would be an octave lower than, for example the fifth sounding on the higher note. The machine will know the difference. If 'confused' or some overtone not sounding (one would NEVER want the tone pot on the guitar rolled back!), then possible trouble. I believe that even n the jumble of notes of a chord that the machine would be able to 'hear all', then take all frequencies, graph them, the played fundamental note would be decided based on fundamentals and overtones each fundamental 'owns.'
Sound tough? I once had a music professor -- a very eccentric sort, a 'absent-minded professor' if ever there was. You could take him to an orchestra performance, give him large blank score sheets, and the man could score the entire performance in realtime BY EAR. Yes, it was sloppy and hurried but true. I saw this a few times and you just never get used to seeing him at work. The first time I saw, I thought I might loose my bowels! We checked his work thoroughly after -- not an error anywhere! Also, every bit as stunning: Blindfolded he could tell which stringed instrument was play a note. He did it by listening for the unique overtones of, say, a viola as opposed to those from a violin!
AdmiralQuality, you don't understand what we were talking about here because you are too busy posting insults and the like. Further, none of it was directed at you! Now, bugger off!
To the two I was actually trying to communicate with, Kaspar and ironhead. I figured it out -- at least theoretically workable with very rare errors. Actually, in theory none. It's not that incredibly difficult. Overtone series are unique to each and every note, especially IF the machine can distinguish as separate from the whole note they are sounding within the volumes (if detecting the audio) or the velocities of these (if detecting input already converted to MIDI). Not saying this is what's used here -- if he's smart he'll keep the coding for this buried in a steel vault somewhere! This is my analysis. Assuming the fundamental and all overtones within a reasonable range of volume/velocity can be detected, the only time there could be problem -- i.e., an error -- would be octaves sounding first and foremost and a few very rare situations. I'll explain with octaves for simplicity's sake: one note plays along with the note an octave above. They would have an identical overtone series EXCEPT that the fifth of the lower note would be an octave lower than, for example the fifth sounding on the higher note. The machine will know the difference. If 'confused' or some overtone not sounding (one would NEVER want the tone pot on the guitar rolled back!), then possible trouble. I believe that even n the jumble of notes of a chord that the machine would be able to 'hear all', then take all frequencies, graph them, the played fundamental note would be decided based on fundamentals and overtones each fundamental 'owns.'
Sound tough? I once had a music professor -- a very eccentric sort, a 'absent-minded professor' if ever there was. You could take him to an orchestra performance, give him large blank score sheets, and the man could score the entire performance in realtime BY EAR. Yes, it was sloppy and hurried but true. I saw this a few times and you just never get used to seeing him at work. The first time I saw, I thought I might loose my bowels! We checked his work thoroughly after -- not an error anywhere! Also, every bit as stunning: Blindfolded he could tell which stringed instrument was play a note. He did it by listening for the unique overtones of, say, a viola as opposed to those from a violin!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 155 posts since 10 Jul, 2012
Telenator,
I have looked back on the last few pages, and apart from the first question about the release date, which i have answered, I couldnt find any actual questions, bug reports, ideas or feedback to improve MIDI Guitar.
Your latest posts are guessing about pitch detection, something that I cannot comment on in this forum. As you said we better keep that in a steel tank, so thanks for your understanding.
Please respect that this thread is about beta testing of MIDI Guitar - report bugs or suggest features. There are a lot of people who have invested their free time in doing this and we have responsibility and interest in keeping things this way.
Feel free to open another thread for discussing pitch detection. Obviously there are very smart people around and I would be listening in case some good ideas should pop up
For all those who feel like shaping the MIDI Guitar software and reporting bugs, we are very thankful for your time and help.
I have looked back on the last few pages, and apart from the first question about the release date, which i have answered, I couldnt find any actual questions, bug reports, ideas or feedback to improve MIDI Guitar.
Your latest posts are guessing about pitch detection, something that I cannot comment on in this forum. As you said we better keep that in a steel tank, so thanks for your understanding.
Please respect that this thread is about beta testing of MIDI Guitar - report bugs or suggest features. There are a lot of people who have invested their free time in doing this and we have responsibility and interest in keeping things this way.
Feel free to open another thread for discussing pitch detection. Obviously there are very smart people around and I would be listening in case some good ideas should pop up
For all those who feel like shaping the MIDI Guitar software and reporting bugs, we are very thankful for your time and help.
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- Banned
- 147 posts since 4 Feb, 2012 from Carolina Beach
Well, excuse me, JamOrigin, but a couple of the chaps here were wondering about how exactly this plugin might function, as was I. You gonna scold them, too? Incidently, I have tested your plugin. I reported how it still crashes Reaper if you run a 'clear cache and scan' while the plugin is already loaded and not deactivated, also that it still crashes Reaper when you boot up on any project that has MIDI Guitar loaded on a track and ready to go -- to which I received NO response, not even a suggestion of any possible cause or workaround. So much for trying to be helpful. No more of that!
Now . . . I'm going to take off the 'notify' feature, so I won't see responses keep showing up in my email. No worries in any case. I'm sick of being constantly insulted by the goons you have hanging around this thread 24/7 and had no plans to post further in 'your thread' any way.
You gonna scold the trolls for being a bunch of jerks? No, you just let that keep happening, don't you? Just take a look at all the rubbish they have posted that has nothing to do with beta! I'm so glad I don't need this plugin, but if I did, I'll assure you that there will be a couple similar on the market within 6 months of this one. I'd be surprised if there wasn't someone tearing your plugin apart right now!
Meanwhile, welcome to the wild West of KVR. Note that this is the land of off-topic posts. I can't be bothered with starting another thread, but you would have been wise to begin an informational one alongside this. I only asked non-beta-test questions here because you created no other place to find out further info. You have something to hide that you can't speak freely about this plugin? Besides, as far as I know, you can't control what people want to say unless you own the forum.
So, lotsa luck, because I'm thinking you''l need it. As I was mulling it over earlier, and like the chap before me also said, I'M OUTTA HERE! I just don't need the aggravation.
Now . . . I'm going to take off the 'notify' feature, so I won't see responses keep showing up in my email. No worries in any case. I'm sick of being constantly insulted by the goons you have hanging around this thread 24/7 and had no plans to post further in 'your thread' any way.
You gonna scold the trolls for being a bunch of jerks? No, you just let that keep happening, don't you? Just take a look at all the rubbish they have posted that has nothing to do with beta! I'm so glad I don't need this plugin, but if I did, I'll assure you that there will be a couple similar on the market within 6 months of this one. I'd be surprised if there wasn't someone tearing your plugin apart right now!
Meanwhile, welcome to the wild West of KVR. Note that this is the land of off-topic posts. I can't be bothered with starting another thread, but you would have been wise to begin an informational one alongside this. I only asked non-beta-test questions here because you created no other place to find out further info. You have something to hide that you can't speak freely about this plugin? Besides, as far as I know, you can't control what people want to say unless you own the forum.
So, lotsa luck, because I'm thinking you''l need it. As I was mulling it over earlier, and like the chap before me also said, I'M OUTTA HERE! I just don't need the aggravation.
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- KVRist
- 46 posts since 25 May, 2012
I'm using the jamorigin midiguitar plugin in Reaper 4.32 64-bit. No crashes in my case. Everything works fine and by using the plugin I could get rid of my midi keyboard because I'm using my guitar now to record midi tracks (melodys and chords!). Great plugin!The Telenator wrote:Well, excuse me, JamOrigin, but a couple of the chaps here were wondering about how exactly this plugin might function, as was I. You gonna scold them, too? Incidently, I have tested your plugin. I reported how it still crashes Reaper if you run a 'clear cache and scan' while the plugin is already loaded and not deactivated, also that it still crashes Reaper when you boot up on any project that has MIDI Guitar loaded on a track and ready to go -- to which I received NO response, not even a suggestion of any possible cause or workaround. So much for trying to be helpful. No more of that!
Now . . . I'm going to take off the 'notify' feature, so I won't see responses keep showing up in my email. No worries in any case. I'm sick of being constantly insulted by the goons you have hanging around this thread 24/7 and had no plans to post further in 'your thread' any way.
You gonna scold the trolls for being a bunch of jerks? No, you just let that keep happening, don't you? Just take a look at all the rubbish they have posted that has nothing to do with beta! I'm so glad I don't need this plugin, but if I did, I'll assure you that there will be a couple similar on the market within 6 months of this one. I'd be surprised if there wasn't someone tearing your plugin apart right now!
Meanwhile, welcome to the wild West of KVR. Note that this is the land of off-topic posts. I can't be bothered with starting another thread, but you would have been wise to begin an informational one alongside this. I only asked non-beta-test questions here because you created no other place to find out further info. You have something to hide that you can't speak freely about this plugin? Besides, as far as I know, you can't control what people want to say unless you own the forum.
So, lotsa luck, because I'm thinking you''l need it. As I was mulling it over earlier, and like the chap before me also said, I'M OUTTA HERE! I just don't need the aggravation.
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- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
any plans for a Reason RE version?
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 4 Oct, 2010
Sorry if this has been asked, I scanned through the pages and might have missed it. I see the limitation of standard tuning. I'm guessing you have to use a 6 string for this too? No 7-8 or more sting guitars will work eh?
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from On the Rhein
AFAIK not yet.
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- KVRist
- 120 posts since 12 Mar, 2011
You can try, MIDI GUITAR responds well with many bass tones.Mattschroed wrote:Sorry if this has been asked, I scanned through the pages and might have missed it. I see the limitation of standard tuning. I'm guessing you have to use a 6 string for this too? No 7-8 or more sting guitars will work eh?
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- KVRist
- 139 posts since 6 Mar, 2004
I agree with you 100%...I have waited a long time to achieve midi guitar results like I can with Jamorigin.guitartom wrote:
I'm using the jamorigin midiguitar plugin in Reaper 4.32 64-bit. No crashes in my case. Everything works fine and by using the plugin I could get rid of my midi keyboard because I'm using my guitar now to record midi tracks (melodys and chords!). Great plugin!
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 4 Oct, 2010
I ordered an 8-string and haven't received it yet but I'll try it once it gets here and see how it works. I'm hopeful! Looks like a great program.ariajazz wrote:You can try, MIDI GUITAR responds well with many bass tones.Mattschroed wrote:Sorry if this has been asked, I scanned through the pages and might have missed it. I see the limitation of standard tuning. I'm guessing you have to use a 6 string for this too? No 7-8 or more sting guitars will work eh?
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- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
I cannot wait for the "tun" file compatibility! 
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from On the Rhein
I can't wait for the next beta to see what has improved.
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- KVRAF
- 5175 posts since 29 Apr, 2006
will all these new features be showing up in a future ipad version?
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- KVRist
- 114 posts since 5 Jan, 2013 from Exeter, Devon UK
Is it safe to come out now?