Perfect, solvedMinimal Audio wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:27 am Ahh I see! Well I think it's because the speed control on the granular is at 100% by default, can you try setting it to 0% and see if you're getting the behavior you're looking for? if speed is 0% then the position will never change and will perfectly follow your modulation curve. -- speed is moving the playhead without modulation you're correct, and it's active by default
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
- KVRAF
- 1572 posts since 21 Nov, 2018
Dash did his review again
Seems fair and thumbs up for the synth definitely has some things other synths on the market don't have and/or does differently, not in the market for a $200 synth at the moment but will keep it on my radar when I get bored of what I already have
Seems fair and thumbs up for the synth definitely has some things other synths on the market don't have and/or does differently, not in the market for a $200 synth at the moment but will keep it on my radar when I get bored of what I already have
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- KVRist
- 250 posts since 8 May, 2015
This is a very nice synth, I think it excels at bass music, ‘EDM’ and house with distorted leads. I had hoped it could replicate my Waldorf Iridium at pads but it’s a different thing and haven’t found it as impressive in that department, but will keep playing around. One thing I really like is the envelop follower as a mod source, it makes for some very organic modulation.
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- KVRAF
- 11999 posts since 12 May, 2008
Someone made a request for a mod matrix. I think that would be good as it's tough to get an overview of the modulations. I think that would be my only request for current...currently.
Further down the road of course I'd want wavetable editing and resynthesis, but that's a given right?
Further down the road of course I'd want wavetable editing and resynthesis, but that's a given right?
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- KVRian
- 1450 posts since 9 Feb, 2007 from San Ramon, California
Falcon 3 dropped yesterday and is on sale for $200 (free update for current license owners). There is just no contest over “Current” at the same price. Current should be $99 and on an intro sale for $66.
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- KVRAF
- 14435 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
I don't think features should be the only criteria for costing (as I would be shocked if Falcon doesn't have more features).
I haven't really heard Current properly yet, but for me if it sounds significantly better than Falcon (yes Falcon 'sound' doesn't exactly woo me) then it might be worth more to me.
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I haven't really heard Current properly yet, but for me if it sounds significantly better than Falcon (yes Falcon 'sound' doesn't exactly woo me) then it might be worth more to me.
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- KVRist
- 70 posts since 28 Jan, 2020
falcon has a horrible workflow, current is easy and fast like serum. I wouldnt buy falcon for 50$. In fact, i sold it here on kvr because i was sick of the bad workflowGribs wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:41 pm Falcon 3 dropped yesterday and is on sale for $200 (free update for current license owners). There is just no contest over “Current” at the same price. Current should be $99 and on an intro sale for $66.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Falcon has an horrible workflow for simple sounds. It is actually quite OK for complex sound (not like phase plant though) and it excels at very complex sounds.DizzlerMusic wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:06 pmfalcon has a horrible workflow, current is easy and fast like serum. I wouldnt buy falcon for 50$. In fact, i sold it here on kvr because i was sick of the bad workflowGribs wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:41 pm Falcon 3 dropped yesterday and is on sale for $200 (free update for current license owners). There is just no contest over “Current” at the same price. Current should be $99 and on an intro sale for $66.
But just try to compare the factory presets of Current versus the new presets of Falcon v3. I kind of like Current but common, it is not even close... The bass are better sounding with Falcon, the brass are just crazy (the Gotham preset !), the fretted sounds are awesome... every 3-4 sounds I am impressed.
When I am listening to Current presets, I am just thinking that I have too many symths and can't be impressed anymore ...
Note that I like Current, it is fun, it is modern sounding, it has great effects. It is a nice synth to go fast and have modern sounds easily ... But I really don't think it can be compared to falcon in terms of power and ultimately sounds (I mean complex ones).
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11999 posts since 12 May, 2008
Personally I would definitely chose Current over Falcon at the same price. Far prefer the workflow and sound as well. Personal preference of course but I think they deserve to be in the same price range, at least while Flacon is on sale.Gribs wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:41 pm Falcon 3 dropped yesterday and is on sale for $200 (free update for current license owners). There is just no contest over “Current” at the same price. Current should be $99 and on an intro sale for $66.
- KVRAF
- 6279 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Falcon has the added benefit of UVI's soundware library as content for Falcon. It's a formidable library. But I hear ya.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:07 pmPersonally I would definitely chose Current over Falcon at the same price. Far prefer the workflow and sound as well. Personal preference of course but I think they deserve to be in the same price range, at least while Flacon is on sale.Gribs wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:41 pm Falcon 3 dropped yesterday and is on sale for $200 (free update for current license owners). There is just no contest over “Current” at the same price. Current should be $99 and on an intro sale for $66.
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- KVRAF
- 11999 posts since 12 May, 2008
Oh yeah definitely lots of advantages there for falcon. Like multi-sampling, scripting, the available libraries etc. I suppose I look at it in the context of already having kontakt and other things, so not really a straight comparison.plexuss wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:26 pmFalcon has the added benefit of UVI's soundware library as content for Falcon. It's a formidable library. But I hear ya.Echoes in the Attic wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:07 pmPersonally I would definitely chose Current over Falcon at the same price. Far prefer the workflow and sound as well. Personal preference of course but I think they deserve to be in the same price range, at least while Flacon is on sale.Gribs wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:41 pm Falcon 3 dropped yesterday and is on sale for $200 (free update for current license owners). There is just no contest over “Current” at the same price. Current should be $99 and on an intro sale for $66.
- KVRian
- 1492 posts since 7 Jun, 2021
compare "Current" with Phaseplant rather than Falcon, no ?
Phaseplant runs for $99 several times a year. And thats why i bought it.
Thats how you get me in. It´s that simple.
It´s buying to give chances a chance. Curiosity, and to be able to check things out by your own (without a ticking clock in the back).
sell for $200, and you´ll lose bigger parts "of that "i don´t really need it" market".
It´s 2023, the situation has changed. should be obvious.
We deal today with a hugely grown market. People buying "for todays prices" like addicted ones.
Rather than a market full of professionals buying the pro tools they need or want to have. By paying pro money.
# a vote to make it $99 initial price
Phaseplant runs for $99 several times a year. And thats why i bought it.
Thats how you get me in. It´s that simple.
It´s buying to give chances a chance. Curiosity, and to be able to check things out by your own (without a ticking clock in the back).
sell for $200, and you´ll lose bigger parts "of that "i don´t really need it" market".
It´s 2023, the situation has changed. should be obvious.
We deal today with a hugely grown market. People buying "for todays prices" like addicted ones.
Rather than a market full of professionals buying the pro tools they need or want to have. By paying pro money.
# a vote to make it $99 initial price
"Plugin has turned Drug now"....and the business knows it.
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Here is the thing when you compare Falcon to Current. Yes Falcon is on paper, way more powerful. However, everyone knows the workflow is absolutely horrendous, and when its time to pump out an idea in your head, no one wants to spend a half hour creating a damn pad sound. Current is very quick, and quite fun to mess around with the effects, which themselves, are very instrumental. UVI has a great product, but I always said its not even close to what it could or should be. Its like someone gave you a synthesizer, but it has no cover, and you can see all the wires and guts, and you have to figure out what everything does. That is an insane thing to ask of anyone lmao
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Ahhhh.....phaseplant. Very tough competition there. Infinite everything. No limitations. Very very tough competition.Funky40 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:29 pm compare "Current" with Phaseplant rather than Falcon, no ?
Phaseplant runs for $99 several times a year. And thats why i bought it.
Thats how you get me in. It´s that simple.
It´s buying to give chances a chance. Curiosity, and to be able to check things out by your own (without a ticking clock in the back).
sell for $200, and you´ll lose bigger parts "of that "i don´t really need it" market".
It´s 2023, the situation has changed. should be obvious.
We deal today with a hugely grown market. People buying "for todays prices" like addicted ones.
Rather than a market full of professionals buying the pro tools they need or want to have. By paying pro money.
# a vote to make it $99 initial price![]()
You know.....as simple as Serum is, I still find it the absolute quickest workflow. Current shares a lot of that simplicity that makes it fun to use. Alot of choices out there. Frankly, I would say having more than one synth is a good idea because each has its own strengths. I like Current for its big and wide sound. I feel like I have to do way less post work to it. Serum I always have to find ways to make it sound bigger. Current has no problem sounding huge. Phaseplant as well, however, phaseplant is a huge playground, so the more work you put in, the better the result. Falcon, I wouldnt even bother with tbh. I feel like its something that the time you spend, isnt worth the results you get
Maybe $99 after its been out a while, but I do think Current has better effects than phaseplant by a long shot.....Its not even close. So I do think $199 is fair "right now".
Phaseplant is also $199 when its not on sale.....so lets see what happens during sale times. You never know. Frankly, I think MA has a lot of great opportunity with new effects.
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- KVRAF
- 9582 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
Lol and current is NFR and minimal audio doesnt care it seems cause they just ignore this topic. The whole vst is a spit in the face of the customer. You dont even get the full package when bought but wait oh wait.... it is new so people need to have it.
Serum, vital (even for free lol) etc any day over such a disastrous pricing model and bad customer handling.
Yeah im refreshing this topic and drama. Cause minimal audio never responds to nfr so far. And im warning new customers.
Serum, vital (even for free lol) etc any day over such a disastrous pricing model and bad customer handling.
Yeah im refreshing this topic and drama. Cause minimal audio never responds to nfr so far. And im warning new customers.
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